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j-v wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:26 AM


It has nothing to do with Windows 11.
Which build of Vegas 18 do you use?
How are you trying the program to start?
 

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Jack S wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:28 AM

@Lukasz You need to give a lot more detail than that to get any help.

Your PC specs in full (fill in your profile (click on your avatar at the top right)
Have you just installed Win 11?
Does it just not start to launch?
If it does start to launch, where does it stop?
Does it hang or does it just disappear?
When it fails, are there any remnants of the program remaining? Use task manager to find out.
Etc, etc.
In other words, as much info as you can give.

My system
Genshin Infinity Gaming PC
Motherboard Gigabyte H610M H: m-ATX w/, USB 3.2, 1 x M.2
Power Supply Corsair RM750X
Intel Core i7-13700K - 16-Core [8P @ 3.4GHz-5.4GHz / 8E @ 2.50GHz-4.20GHz]
30MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible
Case Fan 4 x CyberPowerPC Hyperloop 120mm ARGB & PWM Fan Kit
CPU Fan CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 360 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible
Memory 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5/5200MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB
MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12, VR Ready, HDMI, DP
System drive 1TB WD Black SN770 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 5150MB/s Read & 4900MB/s Write
Storage 2 x 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM
Windows 11 Home (x64)
Monitors
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Generic Monitor (SAMSUNG) connected to iGPU

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Lukasz wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:34 AM

Vegas building 527
RTX4070
32GB RAM
R9 3900X

Windows is working properly. The only problem I have is starting Vegas. I have to double click on the vegas icon. Then I go to the task manager and click finish task. Only then will vegas start. The first time nothing shows up. He doesn't react.

jetdv wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:42 AM

I just tried to start VEGAS Pro 18 on my Win11 machine. After 2 minutes of seeing nothing, I went into the Task Manager and killed the VEGAS Pro 18 process. I then tried starting it again and it started right up.

VEGAS Pro 19, 20, and 21 all open fine the first try.

Not sure what caused 18 to not open on the first try...

j-v wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:57 AM

When I start Vegas 18 on my Laptop from signature (W11) all is normal at the start, look

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Lukasz wrote on 10/23/2023, 10:59 AM

The problem appeared when I installed Windows 11 again. Previously, this problem did not occur when Windows was updated from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

Lukasz wrote on 10/23/2023, 11:19 AM

j-v wrote on 10/23/2023, 11:48 AM

I remember when I did a new Windows installation I saw a (Windows) warning that when programs stopped working properly, they needed to be reinstalled. Have you done that too?

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/23/2023, 12:10 PM

Also. check your online Magix account in case it picked up the reinstall or win-upgrade as a different machine.

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 1:25 AM

I remember when I did a new Windows installation I saw a (Windows) warning that when programs stopped working properly, they needed to be reinstalled. Have you done that too?

Yes

Dexcon wrote on 10/24/2023, 1:38 AM

Having to close any Vegas Pro items under the Task Manager's 'background processes' occurred to me many times using both Windows 10 and then 11. But then that problem also existed with Sound Forge Pro 15 and 16, iZotope's Product Portal (including this week) as well as with Microsoft's own Outlook program, the last two programs being unrelated to MAGIX/Vegas products.

Thankfully, it doesn't seem to be a current problem with Vegas Pro 20 or 21 or with Sound Forge Pro 16 or Outlook any more.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 3:03 AM

Why doesn't magix fix this as usual when many users experience this? It's irritating that people pay for licenses and have to deal with such problems.

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 6:44 AM

Now I can't even uninstall vegas 18 pro suit. Normally some balls.

Dexcon wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:24 AM

If you have System Restore activated in Windows 11 (which is highly recommended), try restoring Windows 11 to an earlier restore point where hopefully Vegas Pro 18 can be uninstalled and then re-installed again. I'd recommend Vegas Pro's clean uninstall process but if VP18 can't first be uninstalled via Windows 11's 'Installed Apps', that clean uninstall process likely wouldn't work.

Another option may, unfortunately, mean having to run Windows 'Repair' procedure which will result in having to re-install all apps on your computer - it's much like a Windows re-install process. If it comes to this, there's possibly some corruption on your computer between the OS and Vegas Pro - it may or may not be caused by Vegas Pro 18 so the easy approach of ascribing blame to Vegas Pro 18 may possibly be misplaced.

Why doesn't magix fix this as usual when many users experience this? 

Please explain how Magix is responsible for the same Task Manager problem occurring with non-MAGIX/Vegas programs such as iZoTope's Product Portal and Microsoft's Outlook? It looks much more like a Windows issue. And I'm sure that it also occurred years ago with Corel's PaintShop Pro.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:37 AM

If you have System Restore activated in Windows 11 (which is highly recommended), try restoring Windows 11 to an earlier restore point where hopefully Vegas Pro 18 can be uninstalled and then re-installed again. I'd recommend Vegas Pro's clean uninstall process but if VP18 can't first be uninstalled via Windows 11's 'Installed Apps', that clean uninstall process likely wouldn't work.

Another option may, unfortunately, mean having to run Windows 'Repair' procedure which will result in having to re-install all apps on your computer - it's much like a Windows re-install process. If it comes to this, there's possibly some corruption on your computer between the OS and Vegas Pro - it may or may not be caused by Vegas Pro 18 so the easy approach of ascribing blame to Vegas Pro 18 may possibly be misplaced.

Why doesn't magix fix this as usual when many users experience this? 

Please explain how Magix is responsible for the same Task Manager problem occurring with non-MAGIX/Vegas programs such as iZoTope's Product Portal and Microsoft's Outlook? It looks much more like a Windows issue. And I'm sure that it also occurred years ago with Corel's PaintShop Pro.

I can't restore Windows. Magix is guilty because it doesn't fix vegas and doesn't cooperate to help other users. The problem has been known for years and other versions of Vegas have also had problems with it. I'm fed up with this company. I've been used to Vegas for years and that's why it's hard for me to change the system. This is unacceptable. Magix should cooperate with Microsoft and provide a solution or release a Vegas patch.

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:40 AM

This is a topic that has been known for years and they released a patch only for Vegas 19 and 20 which worked for some and not for others.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/urgent-vegas-pro-opening-problem--140757/?page=1

jetdv wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:49 AM

The issue with 19 and 20 was a totally separate problem. It had to do with DLLs that "expired" on a certain date and needed to be updated. Those DLLs were not in the previous versions (such as 18) so you're looking at two totally separate things. Your problem is not at all related to the other thread you posted in.

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:55 AM

The issue with 19 and 20 was a totally separate problem. It had to do with DLLs that "expired" on a certain date and needed to be updated. Those DLLs were not in the previous versions (such as 18) so you're looking at two totally separate things. Your problem is not at all related to the other thread you posted in.

I'm looking for information. The problem is the same as mine. I don't know anything about coding. Magix should fix it or give me a solution to the problem. Vegas has been struggling with constant problems for years.

Dexcon wrote on 10/24/2023, 7:56 AM

Looking at your 4 previous posts on the forum over the years, two of them show an antagonistic and somewhat derisive opinion of Magix/Vegas Pro. A common trait of your comments on other threads often follows the same negativity.

Perhaps you really should find another NLE where hopefully you can find editing bliss and only find the need to populate that NLE's forum with constructive comments.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 8:11 AM

Looking at your 4 previous posts on the forum over the years, two of them show an antagonistic and somewhat derisive opinion of Magix/Vegas Pro. A common trait of your comments on other threads often follows the same negativity.

Perhaps you really should find another NLE where hopefully you can find editing bliss and only find the need to populate that NLE's forum with positive and supportive comments.

Sorry for my negative attitude but no one has ever solved my technical problems. You expect a positive opinion about magix, but it has been making the same mistakes for years. I've been using vegas since version 13 and it's still the same. Now there are more problems. The only thing I heard was to turn off the GPU. I've had several graphics cards over the years and it was always the same. The annoying thing is that I paid for a product that doesn't work well. For years, Magix did not fix the old errors and released a new version and made people pay for it. There are a lot of problems on the forum that have affected users over the years. Has anyone done anything about it? You analyze my posts as if I were a troll who wants to harm the magix company. Well, no. I need real and substantive help. I waste my time searching for a solution for hours instead of working. Irritation reaches its zenith. Now I can't uninstall the program. Another problem. Why have I never had any problems with other programs only vegas?

jetdv wrote on 10/24/2023, 8:11 AM

@Lukasz, the current version is 21. I can guarantee you that you won't see a new release of version 18. Your "problem" would probably be gone if you upgraded to 21. You can download and install the 21 trial and see.

Lukasz wrote on 10/24/2023, 8:17 AM

@Lukasz, the current version is 21. I can guarantee you that you won't see a new release of version 18. Your "problem" would probably be gone if you upgraded to 21. You can download and install the 21 trial and see.

I'm sorry, but I cured myself of this way of thinking after many years. When I bought subsequent versions, nothing much changed. The same program freeze crashes.

Reyfox wrote on 10/24/2023, 9:03 AM

As everyone else that has VP18 and Win11 have posted, it is working on my computer too. If it's working on everyone else's computer that replied, then I would have to say that there is an issue with something on your computer.

When I decided to go Win11 (Pro), I bought a new NVME 1TB for a system drive. Installed a fresh installation (not an overwrite update of Win10), and have never had any issues such as yours with Vegas 18, 19, 20, and now 21. I also have installed plugins such as Boris FX Continuum Complete 2023.5, NBFX TFX 360, Sapphire units, Ignite Pro 5, and other specific Vegas plugins. Everything works.

Have you tried Revo Uninstaller Free to see if you can uninstall Vegas?

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/24/2023, 10:22 AM

All versions of Vegas need to call home periodically for a license check. I think something's flaky about that process. Because I often have to kill Vegas in task manager the 1st time I run an older, less used version. Even vp21 does this on machines I don't use much. But vp21 usually starts up without a task manager kill if I wait long enough. In my experience infrequently used vp20 back to vp16 have to be killed the 1st time. Only thing I see unusual in this case is vp18 behaving that way all the time. Might be something interfering with the initial license check. Like firewall, anti-virus, routing, or dns issues. Or the wi-fi itself might need some priming, like doing a windows update check after the machine is 1st booted up.... that's indicative of out of date chipset firmware and drivers.