VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread

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Grazie wrote on 1/23/2023, 10:07 PM

Plug-ln Chooser is extremely slow to open.


@m3lquixd - It goes as fast as I type in a few letters - bosh! Done!

Grazie wrote on 1/23/2023, 10:09 PM

Plug-ln Chooser is extremely slow to open.

Ok, did you try anything else? Anything good to say about any of it? lol...

Impress someone, they might tell a friend. Piss them off, they'll tell 10.

@fr0sty - Yeah. Working very fast here. The speed is faster than I can type!

relaxvideo wrote on 1/23/2023, 11:43 PM

After the update, every time I add a video to the timeline and attempt to click on the video in the video track, Vegas proceeds to hang "Not responding" and one of my CPU cores is on 100% utilization. (EDIT: Once I started complaining here, it has resolved itself... after 5 restarts...)

That's that new AI-assisted error fixer that they snuck in, 😂

Haha, that would be a nice feature 😁

Unfortunately, the crashing does keep coming back...

 

Oh no, this not responding issue is still not fixed? :(
I won't upgrade to 20 from 19 until this is shorted 100% out.
Yes, my pc is old, but the issue is exist on my daughter's pc too (ryzen5, 16GB, RX480 not the latest but with the recommended, stable 22.5.1 driver) My wife is crazy because he edited a 3 cam concert (all with standard avc 1080p files), and Vegas freezed in every 20-30 minutes of editing. So not responding issue exist on 2 totally different system by us :(

fr0sty wrote on 1/23/2023, 11:46 PM

After the update, every time I add a video to the timeline and attempt to click on the video in the video track, Vegas proceeds to hang "Not responding" and one of my CPU cores is on 100% utilization. (EDIT: Once I started complaining here, it has resolved itself... after 5 restarts...)

That's that new AI-assisted error fixer that they snuck in, 😂

Haha, that would be a nice feature 😁

Unfortunately, the crashing does keep coming back...

 

Oh no, this not responding issue is still not fixed? :(
I won't upgrade to 20 from 19 until this is shorted 100% out.
Yes, my pc is old, but the issue is exist on my daughter's pc too (ryzen5, 16GB, RX480 not the latest but with the recommended, stable 22.5.1 driver) My wife is crazy because he edited a 3 cam concert (all with standard avc 1080p files), and Vegas freezed in every 20-30 minutes of editing. So not responding issue exist on 2 totally different system by us :(

Looking into their problem deeper, in the thread they made about it, it seems as it is a problem with their system, as no other users are able to reproduce the same crash using the exact same media files, and even they reported that the crashing stopped after rebooting a certain number of times. You can always be sure by downloading the VEGAS 20 demo and seeing how it works on your system.

That's 24 hours and only 2 crash reports on these forums, with one of them being a user that said the problem resolved itself after a few reboots... The other complaining the VEGAS.exe desktop icon was malfunctioning, which could have been a system error or an improper installation, we won't know until we can diagnose it. Out of the hundreds of VEGAS users on this forum, I'd say that's pretty stable. We also had one complaint about slow loading plugins... that's about it. Not to say this version is 100% perfect, no version is or ever will be of any software ever... but it has been stable enough for me to edit multiple 4K multicamera concert productions in 4K HDR using 10 bit 4:2:2 AVC media, without a single crash.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

MH7 wrote on 1/23/2023, 11:52 PM

I do apologise if this question has been answered multiple times, but for my own benefit and possible others as well, is it possible to upgrade from VEGAS Pro 18 to VEGAS Post 20? Thanks in advance for the answer.

John 14:6 | Romans 10:9-10, 13, 10:17 | Ephesians 2:8-9
————————————————————————————————————

Aussie VEGAS Pro 18 (Build 527) User As Of 28th March, 2021 (Upgraded from VEGAS Pro 15 Edit)

VEGAS Pro Help: VEGAS Pro FAQs and TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDES

My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TechWiredGeek

Video Cameras: Sony FDR-AX700 and iPhone 12 (iOS 16)

My Productivity Workstation (AKA - The Rocket Ship)

CPU: AMD R7 1700 @ 3GHz Motherboard: Gigabyte AX370 G5 RAM: Corsair Vengeance (4x8GB) 32GB DDR4 Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD & WD 2TB HDD GPU: Gigabyte RX 580 OS: Windows 10 (Build: 21H2) Main Monitor: LG 27UD88-W 4K IPS Secondary Monitor: LG 27UL850 4K HDR IPS (both monitors are colour calibrated and matched).

RogerS wrote on 1/24/2023, 12:17 AM

Sure, users of any perpetual non-Steam version of Vegas Pro can upgrade to Post 20. Login to your account and you should qualify for upgrade pricing at the store.

fr0sty wrote on 1/24/2023, 4:04 AM

impressive list of crashes bugs and broken features for me so far. Maybe start with getting Vegas to reliably open when you click the icon, guys? I mean that much, at least ?? What happened to Frosty's vaunted beta testers?

Might want to have a look at this:

Issue details

January 2023

Application shortcuts might not work from the Start menu or other locations

StatusOriginating updateHistory

ResolvedN/A

Resolved: 2023-01-18, 19:28 PT
Opened: 2023-01-13, 13:40 PT

After installing security intelligence update build 1.381.2140.0 for Microsoft Defender, application shortcuts in the Start menu, pinned to the taskbar, and on the Desktop might be missing or deleted. Additionally, errors might be observed when trying to run executable (.exe) files which have dependencies on shortcut files. Affected devices have the Atack Surface Reduction (ASR) rule "Block Win32 API calls from Office macro" enabled. After installing security intelligence build 1.381.2140.0, detections resulted in the deletion of certain Windows shortcut (.lnk) files that matched the incorrect detection pattern.

Windows devices used by consumers in their home or small offices are not likely to be affected by this issue.

Workaround: Changes to Microsoft Defender can mitigate this issue. The Atack Surface Reduction (ASR) rules in Microsoft Defender are used to regulate software behavior as part of security measures. Changing ASR rules to Audit Mode can help prevent this issue. This can be done through the following options:

​Using Intune: Enable attack surface reduction rules | Defender for Endpoint: Microsoft Endpoint Manager

​Using Group Policy: Enable attack surface reduction rules | Defender for Endpoint: Group Policy

Microsoft Office applications can be launched through the Microsoft 365 app launcher. More details on the Microsoft 365 app launcher can be found in Meet the Microsoft 365 app launcher

Next steps: This issue is resolved in security intelligence update build 1.381.2164.0. Installing security intelligence update build 1.381.2164.0 or later should prevent the issue, but it will not restore previously deleted shortcuts. You will need to recreate or restore these shortcuts through other methods. For additional information and help recovering missing shortcuts, see Recovering from Attack Surface Reduction rule shortcut deletions (updated on January 17, 2023 to include additional guidance and scripts to help with recovery).

Affected platforms:

​Client: Windows 11, version 22H2; Windows 10, version 22H2; Windows 11, version 21H2; Windows 10, version 21H2; Windows 10, version 20H2; Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019; Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2016; Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB

​Server: None

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-21h2

David-Dalton wrote on 1/24/2023, 5:21 AM

Here is the error report

Problem Description

   Application Name:    VEGAS Pro

   Application Version: Version 20.0 (Build 326)

   Problem:             Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005)

   Fault Module:        C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\amdxc64.dll

   Fault Address:       0x00007FFA074EDDE2

   Fault Offset:        0x000000000059DDE2

 

Fault Process Details

   Process Path:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 20.0\vegas200.exe

   Process Version:     Version 20.0 (Build 326)

   Process Description: VEGAS Pro

   Process Image Date:  2023-01-16 (Mon Jan 16) 17:03:24

It seems the problem lies with the amdcx,dll
What does that mean?
Thanks

andyrpsmith wrote on 1/24/2023, 5:46 AM

https://www.freefixer.com/library/file/amdxc64.dll-258130/

AMD graphics driver.

May need to update this driver version.

Reyfox wrote on 1/24/2023, 5:47 AM

@fr0sty, side note, the Plugin Chooser for me on my spec'ed system in the sig, is almost instantaneous in showing plugins. I have Continuum Complete 2023, NBFX TotalFX7, Ignite Pro, and others.

bitman wrote on 1/24/2023, 5:51 AM

@fr0sty, side note, the Plugin Chooser for me on my spec'ed system in the sig, is almost instantaneous in showing plugins. I have Continuum Complete 2023, NBFX TotalFX7, Ignite Pro, and others.

Same here

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (20), VP 19 post (latest build -648), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 15 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2022.5, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Audio Clean Lab 3, Sound Forge Audio Studio 16, Sound Forge Pro 16, Spectral Layers Pro 9, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 22H2
  • CPU: i9-12900K with Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Dexcon wrote on 1/24/2023, 5:58 AM

@David-Dalton ... From your earlier post, your comment and computer's specs were:

As soon as the flash screen appears I get the message "Not working" before the program opens.
Before the update, I was running the program without any problems,
If it helps, here are my computer specs

Dell Precision T3610
Processor            Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz   3.50 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB
System type       64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
AMD FirePro W7000 Fire GL V, 2x
Edition  Windows 10 Pro
Version 22H2
OS build               19045.2486
Experience         Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0

Please correct me if I am in error, but is that computer not from circa 2013 - almost 10 years ago? The current minimum requirements for Vegas Pro 20 are outlined here.

Given that Vegas Pro has been evolving version-by-version and update-by-update - including GPU usage - it may be that Vegas Pro 20 b326 has now passed the capabilities of your computer's GPU - that relating to the 'Fault Module: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\amdxc64.dll' message - AMD being the computer's GPU.

If you have installed the Deep Learning Models (DLM) - which heavily relies on GPU usage - try uninstalling the DLM program and see how Vegas Pro 20 goes after the uninstall of the DLMs.

Otherwise, you might need to revert to VP20's previous build which worked for you - or consider updating to a modern computer that is much better capable of taking advantage of 2023 software especially in the computer intensive field of video editing.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16 Edit, Vegas Pro 17 Edit, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 19 Edit, Vegas Pro 20 Edit, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, BCC 2023, Mocha Pro 2022.5.1, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 9, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

D drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

E & F drives: 2 x 2TB Barracuda HDDs 2.5"

 

bitman wrote on 1/24/2023, 6:04 AM

Thanks for adding Flemish to the text to speech! As you can see the the Vegas team is not deaf to user requests. Very much appreciated!

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (20), VP 19 post (latest build -648), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 15 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2022.5, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Audio Clean Lab 3, Sound Forge Audio Studio 16, Sound Forge Pro 16, Spectral Layers Pro 9, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 22H2
  • CPU: i9-12900K with Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

m3lquixd wrote on 1/24/2023, 6:34 AM

@Grazie @Reyfox @bitman Did you test it in the same condition that I presented in this video?
Here, too, it does not present slowness in other situations. But specifically as I showed in the video. Dragging the effect through the Plug-in Manager and then going to add it through the Plug-in Chain, the Plug-in Chooser window takes a long time to load the effects. At least on my machine :(
It would be interesting if possible. You can test it the way I showed you to see if the same thing happens to you.

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Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60 GHz
RAM
    16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 2666MHz
Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. A320M-S2H-CF (AM4)
Graphics
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (ZOTAC International)
Storage
    465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
    238GB Lexar 256GB SSD (SATA (SSD))

Reyfox wrote on 1/24/2023, 6:51 AM

@m3lquixd I just so happen to have Sapphire S_Glow, and did as you did in your video. No problems.

m3lquixd wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:00 AM

@m3lquixd I just so happen to have Sapphire S_Glow, and did as you did in your video. No problems.


😢😢

Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60 GHz
RAM
    16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 2666MHz
Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. A320M-S2H-CF (AM4)
Graphics
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (ZOTAC International)
Storage
    465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
    238GB Lexar 256GB SSD (SATA (SSD))

m3lquixd wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:07 AM

It would be interesting that when we choose the project orientation on the welcome screen the layout changes accordingly. Or even a button (on the welcome screen) to choose our saved layouts.

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Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60 GHz
RAM
    16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 2666MHz
Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. A320M-S2H-CF (AM4)
Graphics
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (ZOTAC International)
Storage
    465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
    238GB Lexar 256GB SSD (SATA (SSD))

m3lquixd wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:11 AM

And I'm sure you're already thinking about it. But could have project resolution 1080p, 2K, 4K etc
Setting the project parameters through the welcome screen makes it a lot easier, I really liked it!

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Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60 GHz
RAM
    16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 2666MHz
Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. A320M-S2H-CF (AM4)
Graphics
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (ZOTAC International)
Storage
    465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
    238GB Lexar 256GB SSD (SATA (SSD))

TheSoundTV wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:24 AM

I find a really bad bug in the new update and i am so angry because the previous update was fine and now it ruins everything again, and the bug that 2 frames at the end of the clip got bugged sound annoying me more... Fix all bugs please... and why the hell when i use auto ripple the colour is changing to orange?

mofobo wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:26 AM

impressive list of crashes bugs and broken features for me so far. Maybe start with getting Vegas to reliably open when you click the icon, guys? I mean that much, at least ?? What happened to Frosty's vaunted beta testers?

Might want to have a look at this:

 

It is absolutely insane that folks are expected to change settings within Windows Defender just to get a program to open when clicked. This isn't an isolated case, it's happening to multiple users.

I really appreciate the work that goes into new features and I love learning how to use new features too, but I'd prefer an update that got the basics right.

David-Dalton wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:33 AM

While I agree that my computer is ageing, and I wouldn't attempt to edit 4K material on it, it was running well on V20. Something in the upgrade installation caused this error to arise.
I am running V19 without problems.

bitman wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:39 AM

@m3lquixd I tried your procedure, but with other fx's as I do not have s_glow; plug-in-chooser speed is almost instantaneous (and I have plenty of effects to load, such as Boris Cont. lots of newBL etc..)

Just a question: did you have that issue with other versions of Vegas like 19 or prior builds? If so, it could be due to some bottleneck in your hardware.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (20), VP 19 post (latest build -648), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 15 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2022.5, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Audio Clean Lab 3, Sound Forge Audio Studio 16, Sound Forge Pro 16, Spectral Layers Pro 9, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 22H2
  • CPU: i9-12900K with Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

RogerS wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:43 AM

The autoripple color is a feature in response to years of user requests to make it more obvious what ripple is affecting as it can break projects. I think it's a little too subtle though and wish the icon were also the same color to stand out from the other confusing-looking icons down there.

m3lquixd wrote on 1/24/2023, 7:45 AM

Just a question: did you have that issue with other versions of Vegas like 19 or prior builds? If so, it could be due to some bottleneck in your hardware.

@bitman Neither in versions 19 nor in the previous 20.

And this slowdown is only happening in the way I mentioned.

Dragging the effect through the Plug-in Manager and then going to add it through the Plug-in Chain, the Plug-in Chooser window takes a long time to load the effects.

Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60 GHz
RAM
    16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 2666MHz
Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. A320M-S2H-CF (AM4)
Graphics
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (ZOTAC International)
Storage
    465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
    238GB Lexar 256GB SSD (SATA (SSD))