VEGAS Pro 21 Build 108 General Discussion

VEGAS_CommunityManager wrote on 8/14/2023, 6:25 AM

Hello everyone,

The VEGAS Team is excited to announce the release of VEGAS Pro 21, build 108. Please use this thread to post general comments on this update. For details on VEGAS Pro 21, please read this post in the News forum.

If you are having any issues using the update or have specific questions, please create a new thread.

Thank you,

The VEGAS Creative Software Team

Comments

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:20 AM

Trial all installed with new learning module fine, started up fine no issues and loaded my last 4K project fine no issues. Note that my CPU is old 3rd gen i5 at 4GHz and GPU 1080Ti. V21 seems happy so far now to try out some features.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:20 AM

Interface is snappy, but had my first not responding. Loaded clips in the media folder from a V20 project and when viewing a clip (nothing on timeline) with auto preview it went into not responding. I had to restart V21 and when doing the same thing it continued with no issue. (no further issues after testing a number of projects, I have had the issue that for every new version I get some minor instability at the beginning that quickly goes away after using the Vegas for a short time).

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pierre-k wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:24 AM

Why don't you always mention in the new version what bugs have been fixed? It gives the impression that you only added new features, which is a shame. I'm interested in what all you have done for the stability of Vegas.

Thanks.

jacknsb wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:33 AM

Is VP21 not included in the Pro 365 Suite? I downloaded from the link under my products but my very up-to-date serial number does not work.
 

Edit: You must go into your Magix Service Center and deactivate any devices currently running VP20, you will then receive a new Serial Number that will work with VP21.

pierre-k wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:38 AM

I remember that when you first introduced the Adjustment Track in the last version, I wrote you exactly the same suggestions that are now in VP21. For AT to act as empty events for FX and Transitions.

My dream came true, including Z-Depth. Thank you. Good job!

PS: I still miss the ability to Time Stretch + Ctrl to speed up more than 400%.

bitman wrote on 8/14/2023, 7:54 AM

Can we have the list of fixed bugs for VP21 build 108? I do not seem to find it anywhere.

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RogerS wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:26 AM

Great question about the bug fixes. VST handling seems somewhat improved here.

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VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

fr0sty wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:43 AM

I do know VST got an overhaul, with a big reduction and the number of redraw commands being sent being something that was mentioned... Among other things. Those of you who use Vegas for audio should notice some big differences.

Googly-Smythe wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:43 AM

£149 for the Edit upgrade is something else, just £50 less than the full price. Not sure I'll bother with this one.

A 100% amateur, making ham-fisted music with my guitar since 1969, soon after seeing Pink Floyd at the Festival Hall, the Albert Hall and the Fairfild Halls.

My main software is Cubase, but I use VEGAS to make videos to post on BitChute and, rarely, on Youtube.

My first computer was an Atari STE 1040, because it could run Cubase and had built-in MIDI ports.

Currently using an i9 12900/Radeon 6700XT machine, 64 gigs RAM, 2 x 32" 1440p monitors, Win 10, VEGAS 20.

fr0sty wrote on 8/14/2023, 9:45 AM

£149 for the Edit upgrade is something else, just £50 less than the full price. Not sure I'll bother with this one.

Neither are very expensive to begin with... But if the value isn't justified, stick with what works for you.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

VEGASDerek wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:05 AM

@Roberto-Almeida: We do have a known issue where some systems will take a very long time got process this "Creating Windows" step on the initial launch. It may take several minutes before it completes. Once it goes through this step initially, it will launch quickly in the future. We are working on a fix for this.

Roberto-Almeida wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:08 AM

Deu certo obrigado..

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:10 AM

I'm using the trial version of V21 and cannot drag a clip to timeline by left clicking on the video section, only on the blue frame. This was fixed in V20 (411). Looks to be intermittent, some times I can sometimes I can't. Need to look into this further. Yes played about with this and following scrubbing through the clip in the media bin about 80% of the time I can drag to timeline 20% not.

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j-v wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:26 AM

@andyrpsmith, With me no problem to drag from the Explorer or Project Media , look

 

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Kloverton wrote on 8/14/2023, 11:42 AM

Great. Few New plugins, for which you have to pay extra, and cloud nonsense.

Upgrade we all "Waited For'. Someone was saying that all the trouble with performance is being worked on, before release of VP21. As always, tons of bs. Now take out your wallet and pay few hundred bucks for plugins. WOW!

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andyrpsmith wrote on 8/14/2023, 1:30 PM

@andyrpsmith, With me no problem to drag from the Explorer or Project Media , look

Yes I can do that for most clips with no issue but some do not. Can you try scrubbing the clip prior to dragging? Thanks.

 

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frmax wrote on 8/14/2023, 1:55 PM

On the subject of Mocha Vegas:
In addition to the text included in the new PDF for Vegas Pro 21, I would also like to point out the video tutorial from BCC that is specific to the Mocha Vegas variant, found in the entry screen when you access the Mocha GUI. From my point of view, a very good introduction.

As expected, an analog to Mocha Hitfilm, which I like very much, because indeed integration and workflow are much better here now.  The learning curve is not to be underestimated....

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tsizemo wrote on 8/14/2023, 1:55 PM

What version of Acid Pro and Sound Forge Pro come with Vegas Pro Post 21 purchase?

Moise-IrinelEmanuel wrote on 8/14/2023, 1:59 PM

Hello , my problem in vegas pro 21 : what I download from vegas hub does not appear in hub explorer until after refresh and lasts for a few seconds

j-v wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:10 PM

@andyrpsmith

Scrubbing is one and trimming is another option in Project Media. Look

When you want to drag the whole file to the timeline, you have to only push the left mouse button at the moment you start to drag down as I showed in the former video

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 23H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
560.70 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 560.70 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Vegas software: VP 10 to 21 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
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frmax wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:12 PM

Ah... next discovery, the default help after F1 is now not an ancient .chm file, but Web-based.
It is of course to a large extent the old help, but the new content is already mostly integrated.
Looks appealing and is now better / easier scalable with the font. A progress, thx

Remains of course a small hook:
If you are not online, the help is missing.... 
Is there a downloadable PDF or something similar?
Otherwise I guess I will have to use a webcrawler with download to create an offline version for myself.

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Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

frmax wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:37 PM

@tsizemo

Sound Forge 17 Pro, nearly 2GB Download

ACID Pro 11, nearly 900 MB download

and coreFX Suite, MAGIX essentialFX Suite, MAGIX Analogue Modelling Suite Plus, MAGIX VariVerb II, MAGIX Vandal, Independence Pro Plus Library, Independence Pro Standard, Boris FX Primatte Studio 2021.5

(Vegas Post 2021)
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Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

tsizemo wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:41 PM

Thank you for the info.

jeffrey-hoover wrote on 8/14/2023, 2:49 PM

I'm trying to download and activate Primate Studio as per the emailed instructions. I sign in to my Boris account, enter the activation number emailed to me and I'm Getting "Serial not valid for this promotion." Anybody else getting this?