??“Native support for ARM”.??

Very interesting.

I see from John's link: "Windows 11 adds the ability to run unmodified x64 Windows apps on Arm devices!"
I'd be surprised if VEGAS will be a native ARM app at any time in the near future. That said if VEGAS works thanks to Windows- great!

VEGAS fully using the AI capabilities of various CPUs and GPUs is more expected as we've seen such a framework put in place a few years ago.

 

I'd be surprised if VEGAS will be a native ARM app at any time in the near future. That said if VEGAS works thanks to Windows- great!

@RogerS It's native

"Windows 10 enables existing unmodified x86 apps to run on Arm devices. Windows 11 adds the ability to run unmodified x64 Windows apps on Arm devices!"

There was a time, (unfortunately, I remember it) when DOS 3.1 applications ran better on IBM OS/2 than they ran on PC-DOS. As I remember, OS/2 made better use of the 32 bit processors of the time than a 16 bit OS. But, then I've forgotten a lot of other stuff. Just ask my wife.

Over dinner, I mentioned Vegas of ARM to my wife. She feigned interest like she has many other times over the last 56 years. She even let me cover the history of Apple going from PowerPC to Intel Processors then to...

Maybe recompiling is less resource intensive than I imagined. Otherwise I'd be surprised Magix would devote resources to this rather limited market given other pressing issues.

Interesting indeed!

If it is true then I suspect someone is going to be in trouble for breaching an embargo. I can't believe this is the way Magix would want any announcement about an upcoming release to reach the world

If it is true then I suspect someone is going to be in trouble for breaching an embargo. I can't believe this is the way Magix would want any announcement about an upcoming release to reach the world

This type stuff is call leaks. Its happened all the times in the tech world. Not much Magix can do about it. It obvious, that Magix provided the software.

@MikeS

You wouldn’t be “breaching an embargo” on Intel’s next chipset, would you?

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Not much of an embargo if it can be so easily breached.

BTW, what embargo?

New chips and chip-sets are often shipped to suppliers in advance of official release but they might not be allowed to sell them or take pre-orders before the release date. I'm not aware Qualcomm does that. I know Intel does. I remember a number of years ago news of Newegg shipping orders of Intel cpus a week early... that might have been a mistake or response to Intel jumping the gun taking its own consumer pre-orders. As I recall, Newegg asked customers to not brag about it even though they were not bound lest everyone, including Intel, be hurt by an Intel-Newegg confrontation.

This type stuff is call leaks. Its happened all the times in the tech world. Not much Magix can do about it. It obvious, that Magix provided the software.

Yes, well aware of what a leak is. But this goes way beyond a leak - it seems to be a public demo at a large public tech expo.

It obvious, that Magix provided the software.

Sure. And it is likely that Magix will share new software with various partners and associates prior to official launch for various reasons. And they'll all be under some form of embargo, such as dated-limited NDAs, to not release info about the product until Magix say so.

Not much of an embargo if it can be so easily breached

Most embargos rely on humans respecting them. There may be consequences of not doing so, but the actual act is always pretty easy

Weren't Magix there themselves promoting VEGAS? I haven't seen any substance of VP 22 released online so assume they kept control of what they wanted to be out there.

 

Not much of an embargo if it can be so easily breached

Most embargos rely on humans respecting them. There may be consequences of not doing so, but the actual act is always pretty easy

Wrong logic. Since the embargo is not counted as friendly act, but the opposite - as hostile one - it should be ensured that the one against whom the embargo is introduced does not have a bigger stick. If we truly are speaking of embargo, that is...

@MikeS

You wouldn’t be “breaching an embargo” on Intel’s next chipset, would you?

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Oops! Fixed

truly are speaking of embargo

I suspect we are speaking at some sort of cross-purposes here. You seem to be thinking I am talking about some sort of trade embargo type of thing. However I am talking about something like a press embargo, described by Wikipedia as

"a request or requirement by a source that the information or news provided by that source not be published until a certain date or certain conditions have been met"

These may be enforced through such legal mechanisms as an NDA.

But perhaps this usage is only common in the UK, where I am based

I don't think it's a leak to say that we're working on VEGAS Pro 22... but it's also true to say that we showed a beta of VEGAS Pro 22 as a native ARM version at Computex in Taiwan.

... jump to 8:55.

Ok, so yes, looking like it is an official preview ...

Interesting

truly are speaking of embargo

I suspect we are speaking at some sort of cross-purposes here. You seem to be thinking I am talking about some sort of trade embargo type of thing. However I am talking about something like a press embargo, described by Wikipedia as

"a request or requirement by a source that the information or news provided by that source not be published until a certain date or certain conditions have been met"

These may be enforced through such legal mechanisms as an NDA.

But perhaps this usage is only common in the UK, where I am based

US English has the same meaning for a press/news embargo.

This was not a leak and we VEGAS did have a representative at Computex for this as part of a demonstration. An alpha version of VEGAS Pro 22 was indeed running natively (not through Windows 11 compatibility mode) on the new Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM CPU and taking advantage of the new NPU technology associated with it.

That is quite interesting... So, with VEGAS running native on ARM, and Apple Silicon being ARM based... Mac port eventually? Not that it would affect me personally, I'm a PC guy, but the rest of my festival video team are all Mac folks, so that would give them reason to consider moving over to VEGAS.

@fr0sty said: "Mac port eventually?"

That's not the way I see it based on this information. In this case, Windows handles hardware abstraction and the application programmers have much less to do.