VP17 build 452 Screen Capture still not working

Martin L wrote on 5/28/2020, 4:17 AM

One of the reasons I upgraded to VP7 is the Screen Capture feature. Now the latest update, and probably the last, came. But still Screen Capture doesn't work at all. No screens appear in the Capture window, just empty rectangles.

So why include a feature that isn't supported, or just doesn't work on most users machines, and then not fixing it?

Apart from that I am very happy with VP17. Keep up the good work Vegas team!

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michael-harrison wrote on 5/28/2020, 10:16 AM

While there are many reasons to use VP 17, screen cap shouldn't be one of them. Editing is VP's primary function and anything else should be considered suspect IMO.

Download OBS. It's superior in most every way, except UI usability. There, it could use some TLC.

https://obsproject.com/

Martin L wrote on 5/28/2020, 2:40 PM

I agree. So I'm happy with Vegas anyway. It's just a promised thing that didn't realize. I don't desperately need it right now so I'll just keep waiting. Should an urgent need arise I'll take your advise and get OBS.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 5/28/2020, 10:07 PM

You really don't need it if you have an amd card... the ReLive feature built into the driver works great.

Cameras: Canon XF305, JVC GV-LS2, Canon 6D w/L-glass line. (Mar 2020: testing Zcam E2)
Laptop: Dell XPS15-9570; i7-8750h 32gb (integrated Intel UHD-630 & Nvidia GTX-1050Ti)
Road: Intel NUC i7 8809g 32gb (integrated AMD VegaM 4gb graphics and Intel HD630)
Workstation: i9 9900k 32 gb (Sapphire AMD Radeon VII 16gb graphics and integrated Intel UHD630)
Workstation2: e5 1650v4 128 gb (Sapphire Nitro+ Vega64 8gb graphics)
Workstation3: i7-980X 24gb (Sapphire Nitro+ RX5700xt Navi 8gb graphics)
currently Vegas 17.452

fifonik wrote on 5/28/2020, 10:32 PM

ReLive feature built into the driver works great.

It used Variable Frame Rate last time I checked ;-)

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 5/29/2020, 2:46 PM

ReLive feature built into the driver works great.

It used Variable Frame Rate last time I checked ;-)


Technically, it does. But it's a very narrow range and I have not had the slightest issue using the footage in Vegas. Here's media info on the most recent ReLive screen capture mp4 I've done.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\hv\Videos\Radeon ReLive\2020.05.28-18.07.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 1.12 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 27 s
Overall bit rate                         : 29.5 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf58.20.100Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L5.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=60
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 27 s
Bit rate                                 : 29.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.113 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 9.996 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 60.015 FPS
Original frame rate                      : 60.000 FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.060
Stream size                              : 1.12 GiB (99%)
Color range                              : Limited
Codec configuration box                  : avcCAudio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 5 min 27 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 7.47 MiB (1%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

 

Cameras: Canon XF305, JVC GV-LS2, Canon 6D w/L-glass line. (Mar 2020: testing Zcam E2)
Laptop: Dell XPS15-9570; i7-8750h 32gb (integrated Intel UHD-630 & Nvidia GTX-1050Ti)
Road: Intel NUC i7 8809g 32gb (integrated AMD VegaM 4gb graphics and Intel HD630)
Workstation: i9 9900k 32 gb (Sapphire AMD Radeon VII 16gb graphics and integrated Intel UHD630)
Workstation2: e5 1650v4 128 gb (Sapphire Nitro+ Vega64 8gb graphics)
Workstation3: i7-980X 24gb (Sapphire Nitro+ RX5700xt Navi 8gb graphics)
currently Vegas 17.452

ByronK wrote on 5/31/2020, 4:08 AM

 

While there are many reasons to use VP 17, screen cap shouldn't be one of them. Editing is VP's primary function and anything else should be considered suspect IMO.

Download OBS. It's superior in most every way, except UI usability. There, it could use some TLC.

https://obsproject.com/

@michael-harrison Myself many others who have purchase the upgrade expected to be able to use this "feature" and stay within the Vegas environment. Magix has FALSELY advertised this half baked feature.

@ Martin L Please Try this...

Click Start menu and type Device Manager. Select it.

At the top of the list under Display Adapter, right click on the card and select Disable device.

NOTE: This is a kludge and you'llI have to re-enablle after screen capture.(If it works) which is a royal PITA,

 

andyrpsmith wrote on 5/31/2020, 4:16 AM

Capture to file works fine it is capture to clipboard that is broken as far as I can see.

 

walter-i. wrote on 5/31/2020, 4:47 AM

Capture to file works fine it is capture to clipboard that is broken as far as I can see.

It is Screen Capture they are talking about - a new feature in Vegas pro 17

Camcorder: Pana HDC SD909, Sony FDR-AX53
Hardware: CPU i9-9900KS 4GHz, 32 GB Ram, GTX 1660 SUPER, ASUS TUF Z390-PLUS Gaming, SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2, SSD 860 EVO Series 1TB, Toshiba 3TB SATA, WIN 10 Pro
NLE: Vegas Pro11-15+17, Heroglyph4, RespeedR

frmax wrote on 5/31/2020, 7:14 AM

It´s a stand alone program, located in subfolder  ..\VEGAS Capture  as VEGAS Capture.exe, so can start it even when Vegas is closed. The only advantage is importing the recorded media directly to project explorer in Vegas (if  used per menu ) .

Martin L wrote on 6/1/2020, 3:51 AM

@ Martin L Please Try this...

Click Start menu and type Device Manager. Select it.

At the top of the list under Display Adapter, right click on the card and select Disable device.

NOTE: This is a kludge and you'llI have to re-enablle after screen capture.(If it works) which is a royal PITA,

 

Byron, thanks! That actually worked! I disabled the graphics card and one of my two screens went blanc, I started Vegas and Screen Capture, and the one remaining screen showed up in the dialogue as it should. Amazing! How did you come up with that?

So it means I could probably screen record now. However, only on one screen, so Vegas still needs to fix the issue.

Thanks again!

D7K wrote on 6/1/2020, 9:12 AM

ReLive is a great tool if you have an AMD card. Howard is correct in his advice.

ByronK wrote on 6/2/2020, 2:10 AM

Byron, thanks! That actually worked! I disabled the graphics card and one of my two screens went blanc, I started Vegas and Screen Capture, and the one remaining screen showed up in the dialogue as it should. Amazing! How did you come up with that?

So it means I could probably screen record now. However, only on one screen, so Vegas still needs to fix the issue.

Thanks again!

matthias-krutz on this thread helped me out.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/screen-capture-cant-see-source--118299/

If you want to do anything more advanced than that you'll probably be better off using OBS.

Martin L wrote on 6/2/2020, 2:14 AM

Byron, thanks! That actually worked! I disabled the graphics card and one of my two screens went blanc, I started Vegas and Screen Capture, and the one remaining screen showed up in the dialogue as it should. Amazing! How did you come up with that?

So it means I could probably screen record now. However, only on one screen, so Vegas still needs to fix the issue.

Thanks again!

matthias-krutz on this thread helped me out.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/screen-capture-cant-see-source--118299/

If you want to do anything more advanced than that you'll probably be better off using OBS.

Thanks, yes, I guess that is true. Hopefully Vegas will at one Point have a working version of Screen Capture, preferrably somewhat more advanced too. Let's see.

walter-i. wrote on 6/2/2020, 2:52 AM

Hopefully Vegas will at one Point have a working version of Screen Capture, preferrably somewhat more advanced too. Let's see.

If I remember correctly, it was always said that there should only be a simple recorder, since there are user requests. The main focus was that the files generated by Vegas are easy to process.
With other recorders there were always these problems that Vegas begins to cough as soon as you put their files in the timeline.

Admittedly - the recorder is too easy for me too, since it has hardly any setting options and can only do 30 fps - so I'm back to OBS.

 

Camcorder: Pana HDC SD909, Sony FDR-AX53
Hardware: CPU i9-9900KS 4GHz, 32 GB Ram, GTX 1660 SUPER, ASUS TUF Z390-PLUS Gaming, SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2, SSD 860 EVO Series 1TB, Toshiba 3TB SATA, WIN 10 Pro
NLE: Vegas Pro11-15+17, Heroglyph4, RespeedR