VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion

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3d87c4 wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:00 AM

Can the new codec render 4K top/bottom full format 3D MP4's, or do I have to keep using x264 and Handbrake?

14 cost a lot, and never really had any advantage over 13 for what I do. Not sure what to make of 15...

 

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Norbert wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:12 AM

I've been screen recording my editing progress so I can show you guys strange behaviors and bugs>

I uploaded it Unlisted so only people here can see it.

Norbert wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:17 AM

I have a suggestion, muted events should be grey or way darker since I can't always tell which are muted sometimes by the first time I look at the timeline.

Robert W wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:59 AM

@AVsupport  I have a new project - restoring a silent era film. My main editor is Magix Video ProX, but it doesn't support the archival quality DPX digital intermediate video format of my source material. I also use VEGAS PRO. However, I did try DaVinci Resolve and find it a sleek program with may features, but i finally decided to edit this current project on VEGAS PRO 15. Resolve felt more like an 'effects' and 'grading' application - although its a full-editor also. I'll keep Resolve for specific tasks, but when decision time came, I just felt more comfortable with a traditional nuts-and-bolts editor. Because in the end, it's about the mechanics of assembling a film.

I am interested to hear about anyone using Vegas for a silent film restoration project. I would have though Vegas would have been a bit limited for that kind of application, certainly with the out of the box tools. May I ask, what is the source medium and are you using any particular plugins?

NickHope wrote on 9/1/2017, 6:48 AM

Wow surprised at all the negative comments. Might have to rethink any upgrade. What is the killer new feature - is there one?

These are the biggest IMO, depending on what you need:

  • Faster AVC rendering using Nvidia NVENC or Intel QSV
  • Native support for Panasonic GH5, iPhone & JVC YUV 4:2:2 footage, if you need those
  • Darker interface if that's really something you care about


The rest is all listed here.

Pashi wrote on 9/1/2017, 7:50 AM

Always using my shortcut CTRL+W to paste media attributes since old Vegas versions. In ver.15 when I press ctrl+W it just paste copied clip like Ctrl+V instead of copying attributes. No other shortcuts was set to this combination.

When I shooting 120p with my Sony A7S2 I can't simply press "Conform" button to slow video down to 24/25p because in clip properties you can only slow it down by 4 times. It's SAD :(

Pashi wrote on 9/1/2017, 7:55 AM

 

  • Darker interface if that's really something you care about

Dark interface is good and ability to kill color of icons is great too but the interface is still from 2000s. It's very disappointing to me((( But still I feel like it Vegas Pro 14.0.1, not v15 for crazy amount of money... For me adding ProRes was greatest feature ever.

Pashi wrote on 9/1/2017, 8:03 AM

Expected something special, improvements and new features but nope, it's just the same old VEGAS with a thin coat of fresh paint. What a letdown. No intuitive composite sequences, output encoders are still the same. I guess MAGIX doesn't want VEGAS to compete with their true flagship NLE, VIDEO PRO X. All they need to do is take the good bits of each and make a monster app, it doesn't make sense why they have to keep both and yet VEGAS is way better but needs some features that are already in VIDEO PRO X.

What features exactly?

Glovercover created this UI concept that appeals to what I am talking about.

Composite Sequences. All I need is a tab to create another sequence and have all my sequences appear in a smart bin. I can double click on the composite sequence if I need to make changes to it and it opens on the timeline. At the moment, I have to drag a .VEG file into the timeline, which is really not the best workflow.

OMG! guys from MAGIX have to take you to their company and pay $1000000 to you! 100500% agreed with you! I'll scream "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" when MAGIX implements everything you're talking about!

NickHope wrote on 9/1/2017, 8:11 AM

Always using my shortcut CTRL+W to paste media attributes since old Vegas versions. In ver.15 when I press ctrl+W it just paste copied clip like Ctrl+V instead of copying attributes. No other shortcuts was set to this combination.

No doubt related to this: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/paste-event-attributes-bug-pro-15--108400/

mateuszszar wrote on 9/1/2017, 8:17 AM

1. "Titles&Tex" and "(Legacy) Text" - old vegas problem with "ż" [right-alt + z] returned... Instead of letter "ż", vegas used the "undo" shortcut

2. ASIO - Komplete Audio 6 doesn't work correctly. When I use "audio device type > Komplete Audio 6".

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Len Kaufman wrote on 9/1/2017, 10:13 AM

Hello, happy to upgrade as I have good Vegas Pro plugins etc and good VegasPro skills BUT where is the 360 video support or plugin?

I do not want to goto Adobe.. 

Please advise

@steve-h5836 Find an inexpensive piece of software that specializes in 360-editing (check if some of MAGIX's consumer software has that feature) or a 3rd party plug-in and use it when you need it. Then render-out and import into VEGAS.

I agree with Barton-Santello. I use the software that comes with the Samsung 360 camera, and import the result into Vegas to "goose it up." I've had people on other forums ask me how I achieved that level of quality.

skyml wrote on 9/1/2017, 12:26 PM

Meanwhile using the search bar to find a particular plug-in is as excruciatingly slow as ever. Apart from the look have yet to find any actual improvements in performance.


I know I've asked for this in the past.... why didn't Magix include an option for us to create a favorites folder and move it to the top of the Video FX window so we could assemble and have easy custom access to our most used Video FX for a given project? Sorting thru the "All" list is much worse when it's full and it defaults to the "ALL" folder being open making us scroll down to each folder below it to access FX by folder.

They almost had something like this for the Plug-in Manager, but that does nothing for my work flow and I access a lot of video FX when I edit (color correction/LUT's, sharpening or unsharpen mask, white balance, etc.).

redpaw wrote on 9/1/2017, 12:38 PM

Meanwhile using the search bar to find a particular plug-in is as excruciatingly slow as ever. Apart from the look have yet to find any actual improvements in performance.


I know I've asked for this in the past.... why didn't Magix include an option for us to create a favorites folder and move it to the top of the Video FX window so we could assemble and have easy custom access to our most used Video FX for a given project? Sorting thru the "All" list is much worse when it's full and it defaults to the "ALL" folder being open making us scroll down to each folder below it to access FX by folder.

+1 the amount of time that i waste scrolling through the videoFX constantly to go between the same 2-4 effects... so annoying.

Grazie wrote on 9/1/2017, 12:43 PM

@skyml : Have you tried the SEARCH facility at the top of FX list? As to why MAGIX has done what you/we want, better ask them.

skyml wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:03 PM

@skyml : Have you tried the SEARCH facility at the top of FX list? As to why MAGIX has done what you/we want, better ask them.


Grazie, Yes, the search really does little in speeding the work flow process. Scrolling thru a long list or typing in a search box pretty much slows the roll no matter what. But a condensed folder at the Front of the list with what we want and need, with a simple click and drag, isn't that hard to include and makes the point of a GUI actually functional and efficient. And Magix has been asked... just like I've been asking for the "freeze frame" option in a right click like we got in ver 15 (been asking for this since Ulead Media Studio Pro died). Perhaps others will see the benefit and put the pressure on Magix.

Grazie wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:04 PM

I'm with you!

Pashi wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:39 PM

YES! I'm agree with you guys! We really need some kind of sorting in Video FX/Transitions tab. In "Plug-in manager" tab we can create "favourites" folder but can't choose presets there.

And great feature can be ability to use Twixtor for time remaping with "event velocity".

NickHope wrote on 9/1/2017, 1:53 PM

And please fix and reinstate the FX rename function, greyed out since VP14. It's in the context menu on the plug-in chooser. If you could rename your favorite ones to "0-whatever" and the list was sorted alphanumerically, they would rise to the top.

Shinra Bansho wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:27 PM

Hi skyml, that's a good idea. Meanwhile, would the "Filter packages" function work for you? I normally begin with a certain set of color correction filters, e.g. Levels, Color Corrections, Curves etc that I frequently use which are saved as a chain in "Filter packages". You could set up several different filter packages of your choice.

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Len Kaufman wrote on 9/1/2017, 5:39 PM

Hi skyml, that's a good idea. Meanwhile, would the "Filter packages" function work for you? I normally begin with a certain set of color correction filters, e.g. Levels, Color Corrections, Curves etc that I frequently use which are saved as a chain in "Filter packages". You could set up several different filter packages of your choice.

I do the same. Normally 3 filters applied to my usual camera/lens combination. Then I work from there.

Kit-As-Was wrote on 9/1/2017, 7:34 PM

@skyml : Have you tried the SEARCH facility at the top of FX list? As to why MAGIX has done what you/we want, better ask them.

A constipated sloth is quicker than the search facility - if it worked at regular typing speed maybe but it takes seconds per letter. The ability to organise FX and rename them with a favourites folder is sorely missing.

Kinvermark wrote on 9/1/2017, 8:54 PM

Actually, search is quite fast and usable in Vegas 15 here. I would prefer a "favorites" folder, but can make do with filter packages for now.

Kit-As-Was wrote on 9/1/2017, 9:18 PM

Actually, search is quite fast and usable in Vegas 15 here. I would prefer a "favorites" folder, but can make do with filter packages for now.


What system are you using? V15 search is no faster than V14 search on my system. Cheers.

3d87c4 wrote on 9/1/2017, 11:21 PM

Hello, happy to upgrade as I have good Vegas Pro plugins etc and good VegasPro skills BUT where is the 360 video support or plugin?

I do not want to goto Adobe.. 

Please advise

@steve-h5836 Find an inexpensive piece of software that specializes in 360-editing (check if some of MAGIX's consumer software has that feature) or a 3rd party plug-in and use it when you need it. Then render-out and import into VEGAS.

I agree with Barton-Santello. I use the software that comes with the Samsung 360 camera, and import the result into Vegas to "goose it up." I've had people on other forums ask me how I achieved that level of quality.

Actually, there are a few 360 related tools that would be handy in Vegas: Titles, apex/nadir patching, ability to move the 360 view around to change perspective or alter the horizon, etc. Not all of these can be done with the software provided by the camera makers or stitching software like AVP/Giga. Premier has a lot of 360 plugins and integrates nicely with AVP/Giga workflows. It would be nice if Vegas did too.

Now...would someone please answer my question about the new codec? I'm editing 3D 360 VR videos with Vegas and would like to be able to render at 4K over/under full with out jumping through too many hoops.

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Processor    13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900H   2.60 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Touch support with 10 touch points

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎6/‎8/‎2023
OS build    22621.1848
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22642.1000.0

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU
Driver Version: 31.0.15.2857
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