VEGAS Pro 15 Update 5 (build 361) - General Discussion

ritsmer wrote on 5/26/2018, 7:47 AM

@jetdv I found it here:

(Under Filters the Show Favorites Only should be unchecked):

jetdv wrote on 5/26/2018, 7:53 AM

@ritsmer, here's what I see:

ritsmer wrote on 5/26/2018, 7:54 AM

Do you have an AMD graphics card ? Sorry for the silly question 🙂 but it could be...

Grazie wrote on 5/26/2018, 8:00 AM

How about anything for nVideo - anything? All I have revealed is MainConcept.

NickHope wrote on 5/26/2018, 9:10 AM

My install doesn't have the Magix HEVC render option...

@jetdv I don't have it either. My guess is that you only see that option if you have an AMD or NVIDIA GPU that will support HEVC rendering. Otherwise you have the Intel HEVC option for QSV or CPU-only HEVC renders.

Former user wrote on 5/26/2018, 9:24 AM

My install doesn't have the Magix HEVC render option...

@jetdv I don't have it either. My guess is that you only see that option if you have an AMD or NVIDIA GPU that will support HEVC rendering. Otherwise you have the Intel HEVC option for QSV or CPU-only HEVC renders.

Probably depends on your hardware set. Some small bits I found on inet, not guaranteed definitive.

Others feel free to correct or add to ...

1) 6th Generation Intel Core processors, Skylake, supports hardware accel. hevc 8-bit encode and decode.

2) AMD’s 6th-generation ‘Carizzo’ APUs onwards, vce 3.0.

3) I have a Fury-X and don't have Magix-HEVC.

3) AMD Radeon R9 Fury/Fury X ‘Fiji’ GPUs onwards. Update, See 3) above correction by @Adi-W

4) HEVC encoding for NVidia, a 10xx series card is required. Older cards did not have the HEVC encoder.

4) Nvidia 900 Series GPUs (GeForce GTX 960, 950) onwards. Update, See 4) above correction by @VEGASDerek

VEGASDerek wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:18 AM

As for HEVC encoding for NVidia, a 10xx series card is required. Older cards did not have the HEVC encoder.

Adi-W wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:25 AM

I have a Fury-X and don't have Magix-HEVC.

One other question, do you still have to enable from the "hidden" Preferences the option "Render using GPU" to see it in the Rendering Menu ?

pierre-k wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:30 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!

THE PROBLEM IS IN VEGAS 12-15!!! 👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿

1. LONG TIME WITH RETURN FROM EXPANDED MODE. THE PROBLEM IS IN A PROJECT WITH MORE TRACKS. MORE TRACKS MEANS MORE TIME. PLEASE REPAIR FUNCTION OR HARD OFF

2. FROZEN VEGAS WITH ENABLED THE AUTO RIPPLE AND DELETED VIDEO IF IT PLAY

QUICKLY REPAIR THESE TWO ERRORS.

thank you.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:30 AM

As for HEVC encoding for NVidia, a 10xx series card is required. Older cards did not have the HEVC encoder.

@VEGASDerek - Which AMD cards best support HEVC encoding/accelerated timeline playback in Vegas 15? Are AMD cards still the way to go and if so, how much VRAM?

I'm leaning towards ditching nVidia completely as my sole need with Vegas is better timeline playback performance when applying Vegas based accelerated effects like Pro title graphics, etc... The projects I produce aren't large enough to be concerned with needing super fast rendering although reading about HEVC it does future proof any content I produce moving forward.

NickHope wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:46 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

pierre-k wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:55 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

Panasonic, Sony, Gopro, videos from Digital Juice, h624, mp4, m2t, mov, avi, mpeg. The problem is with everyone

Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:59 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

Panasonic, Sony, Gopro, videos from Digital Juice, h624, mp4, m2t, mov, avi, mpeg. The problem is with everyone

With all those format types, I'm guessing Vegas can't handle them all at once within your project. My experience in the past has been to settle on one mezzanine codec to convert the files to (Cineform for me) - it means additional time in prepping for post, but "could" alleviate your problems. I'm sure @NickHope and others on this forum are more experienced with this than I am.

NickHope wrote on 5/26/2018, 10:59 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

Panasonic, Sony, Gopro, videos from Digital Juice, h624, mp4, m2t, mov, avi, mpeg. The problem is with everyone

Any better (for the AVC/XAVC-S formats) if you disable so4compoundplug?

NickHope wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:01 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

Panasonic, Sony, Gopro, videos from Digital Juice, h624, mp4, m2t, mov, avi, mpeg. The problem is with everyone

With all those format types, I'm guessing Vegas can't handle them all at once within your project. My experience in the past has been to settle on one mezzanine codec to convert the files to (Cineform for me) - it means additional time in prepping for post, but "could" alleviate your problems. I'm sure @NickHope and others on this forum are more experienced with this than I am.

I've never experienced or even read such a problem with mixed formats in Vegas.

pierre-k wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:06 AM

PLEASE TO DEFINE REPAIR 2 ERRORS!!!...

@pierre-k What format is your footage and from what camera?

Panasonic, Sony, Gopro, videos from Digital Juice, h624, mp4, m2t, mov, avi, mpeg. The problem is with everyone

With all those format types, I'm guessing Vegas can't handle them all at once within your project. My experience in the past has been to settle on one mezzanine codec to convert the files to (Cineform for me) - it means additional time in prepping for post, but "could" alleviate your problems. I'm sure @NickHope and others on this forum are more experienced with this than I am.

I've never experienced or even read such a problem with mixed formats in Vegas.

the problem is in all projects. in one I have only m2t. In the second project, jpg subtitles and mp4. It does not matter what you cut. It's always wrong.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:07 AM

@pierre-k What are your hardware specs? Your profile doesn't list them

jetdv wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:08 AM

I do not have an AMD card. I do have an nVidia card but will have to check to see which one that laptop has.

Grazie wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:08 AM

As for HEVC encoding for NVidia, a 10xx series card is required. Older cards did not have the HEVC encoder.

Ah huh.... Thanks Derek.

pierre-k wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:14 AM

@pierre-k What are your hardware specs? Your profile doesn't list them

Previously Windows 7. Now windows 10 (problem is in all)

Intel Xeon e3-1231 v3 3,40Ghz

RAM 16GB

Vegas 12-15. (Vegas 11 is ok!!)

Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/26/2018, 11:43 AM

@pierre-k What are your hardware specs? Your profile doesn't list them

Previously Windows 7. Now windows 10 (problem is in all)

Intel Xeon e3-1231 v3 3,40Ghz

RAM 16GB

Vegas 12-15. (Vegas 11 is ok!!)

GPU? Storage setup?

fr0sty wrote on 5/26/2018, 12:28 PM

"I'm leaning towards ditching nVidia completely "

Here's why that might be a good idea... might not.

AMD cards have always been said to be better at GPGPU compute tasks than Nvidia, so you'll be getting more horsepower out of Vegas if this still holds true. However, you also must factor in that AMD's drivers are not as stable. For instance, I'd never be able to get screen sizing to work correctly on my AMD Radeon 6800, sometimes it would not detect multiple displays (especially if connecting more than 2), or if it did it would not report back the correct native resolution or would not let you set the native resolution at all. In all cases, I'd have crashes when using multimonitor.

When it comes to 3D graphics, Nvidia is king... especially real-time rendering, which isn't of use to most of us (though I do CGI as well, so it does help there).

I'd like to hope that in the several years that have passed since my last experience with AMD, they've improved on the software front, but just wanted to throw that buyer beware out there so you know to look up any potential software issues with the AMD card you might have your eye on and the rest of your hardware setup. For someone like me, who does video projection mapping and has to max out my display outputs frequently, I have to have rock solid stability. Being at a video mapping gig with the stage pitch black 30 minutes into a concert because my projectors are not getting a video signal from my card... That will end a career really quick, so it'll take a lot to convince me to go back to them.

Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/26/2018, 12:38 PM

@fr0sty - My biggest gripe besides stability which seems to have been addressed with this latest v361 build has been timeline performance. My current graphics card is ancient by today's standards (GTX-660ti) and the kind of work I produce/edit isn't more than 10 minutes long (Typically falls in the range of 1-5 minutes) - Timeline playback performance is my #1 need moving forward with Vegas since things like pre-rendering the full timeline like you can in Premiere Pro CS6 and having it link to those pre-rendered files isn't an option for more complex projects in Vegas. (Trust me - I'm looking forward to shelving PPro CS6 very soon)

I'm totally confused on this as I've always defaulted to nVidia because that's that is supported in Premiere Pro CS6 (albeit in a mediocre way). It still seems that AMD cards are preferred for timeline playback performance.

D7K wrote on 5/26/2018, 2:14 PM

Changed post: User Error. 4K now works fine, I had set the bit rate higher than the source. 4K 100 mb's runs just fine after rendering on the time line to AMD VEC. I am getting extremely fast rendering with several FX's applied. Big, Big Thank you to the development team. You can set your H/L bite rate just don't exceed that of your camera's video.