VEGAS Pro 16 Update 1 (build 261) - General Discussion

david-ruby wrote on 9/7/2018, 1:01 PM

Thanks Nick. Odd question. When I do open this up in vegas 15. It will let me edit the file in a notepad but when I save it says I don't have permission and will not allow to save under same name,

fr0sty wrote on 9/7/2018, 1:06 PM

To get around that, save the file in another location that isn't protected, like your desktop, then copy/paste it back into that folder. It will ask you for permission before replacing the file. If that too fails, delete the old file (or rename it if you want to play it safe) and then paste the file in. Just make sure the new file has the same name the old one did, same file extension too.

If the file extensions (.dll, .exe, .jpg, etc) are hidden, you can go into windows folder options and uncheck "hide file extensions for known file types".

david-ruby wrote on 9/7/2018, 1:42 PM

Thanks Nick and fr0sty for your help here. So far so good. Will give it a moreover this weekend. Thank you and cheers.

zaheer-abbas wrote on 9/7/2018, 6:09 PM

GUI in VP16 became slow as a hell in comparison with VP15. Just moving the events take huge amount of time...

Having this same issue although the update has imporved this slightly its still unusuable at the moment. Hopefully the next update will resolve this

NickHope wrote on 9/7/2018, 10:34 PM

GUI in VP16 became slow as a hell in comparison with VP15. Just moving the events take huge amount of time...

Having this same issue although the update has imporved this slightly its still unusuable at the moment. Hopefully the next update will resolve this

@zaheer-abbas Does it help if you close the Project Media window?

zaheer-abbas wrote on 9/8/2018, 7:57 AM

Hi Nick, i just tried this now and yes is made a big difference, perhaps not as smooth vegas 14 but better. But i think it still needs to be resolved with project media on as the the story board feature is quite useful

GUI in VP16 became slow as a hell in comparison with VP15. Just moving the events take huge amount of time...

Having this same issue although the update has imporved this slightly its still unusuable at the moment. Hopefully the next update will resolve this

@zaheer-abbas Does it help if you close the Project Media window?

fr0sty wrote on 9/8/2018, 9:16 AM

Strange, I'm not noticing any lag on my timeline. I wonder if it is specific to a certain hardware config? Does anyone else have this issue?

Kinvermark wrote on 9/8/2018, 11:09 AM

Yes, just tested. Opened a large project from Vegas 14. Works normally when project media window is closed.

Slows down and stutters whenever project media is open (even after thumbnails drawn), and goes back to normal once closed. Selecting "all media" bin is better than smart bin or storyboard bin (really bad) but is still unworkable.

See signature for h/w specs.

TheBaboTv wrote on 9/9/2018, 9:52 PM

I am very disappointed with the progress of Vegas, I was a user of version 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 before switching to Apple systems. Vegas was so stable, fast and fluid in those versions that on returning to Windows this time without thinking I bought a license Vegas PRO 365, but my surprise has been another.

Vegas closes every moment, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A SOFT AND FLUID REPRODUCTION in the monitor and trimmer, it does not support importing large amounts of files (importing 25 files at once causes closures and hang up)

The 15 version was terrible and I waited for the patch of the 16, improved some defects like memory management for the loading of the files, but it really is a torture to wait for the load of projects. It happens list of all the content and it is very tedious to wait so much to begin to work with playback of slow video and crashes of the program.

The requirements of the system I am in the acceptable parameters : 32GB of RAM, Intel i7 Quad Core of seventh generation and dedicated graphics card of 4 GB Nvidia 1050.

It has only been money thrown in the trash, I can not believe that HITFILM express has better playback capacity with Pro Res files and Avid DNxHD fluid and without freezing, Vegas has stopped being PRO.

Kinvermark wrote on 9/9/2018, 10:01 PM

Thanks for coming here and complaining. Really appreciated!

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/10/2018, 2:46 AM

I am very disappointed with the progress of Vegas, I was a user of version 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 before switching to Apple systems. Vegas was so stable, fast and fluid in those versions that on returning to Windows this time without thinking I bought a license Vegas PRO 365, but my surprise has been another.

Vegas closes every moment, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A SOFT AND FLUID REPRODUCTION in the monitor and trimmer, it does not support importing large amounts of files (importing 25 files at once causes closures and hang up)

The 15 version was terrible and I waited for the patch of the 16, improved some defects like memory management for the loading of the files, but it really is a torture to wait for the load of projects. It happens list of all the content and it is very tedious to wait so much to begin to work with playback of slow video and crashes of the program.

The requirements of the system I am in the acceptable parameters : 32GB of RAM, Intel i7 Quad Core of seventh generation and dedicated graphics card of 4 GB Nvidia 1050.

It has only been money thrown in the trash, I can not believe that HITFILM express has better playback capacity with Pro Res files and Avid DNxHD fluid and without freezing, Vegas has stopped being PRO.

Beside all the compaining, it would good to know more Detail about your Project Settings or the type of footage you edit.

And see that: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/de/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Also, I would open a support ticket.

digilyd wrote on 9/10/2018, 2:50 AM

OK, rendering mysteries again, NVENC and all that. On the computer with the 1050ti NVENC is not offered as a render option, on the computer with the 730 it is. Where's the issue, is it because one installation is an upgrade and the other a new installation?

Also, I get 13+ frames pr. second in rendering on the box with the 730 and hardly 3 frames pr. second on the box with the 1050ti. Why is the 1050ti in the Dell 490 dual xeon not properly used? - is it an OS issue, windows10 on the box with the 730 and windows 7 on the 490?

I clicked on "look this card up" in gpu-z, and lo and behold, with certainty the card is defective as it keeps crashing when playing skyrim on it, but what gpu-z claims is that it is a FAKE NVIDIA 1050ti, here is what gpu-z claims that it really is, even if reporting it on its own screen as a 1050ti:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b5558/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-fake-card

So what I am gonna do is to get another fanless 730 as the one for the officebox for this box, I already almost was there in my mind, but with it being asserted by gpu-z to be not only flakey, but just not what it claims to be, but instead a FAKE NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARD, it is just going to the scrapheap at the recycling station.

OldSmoke wrote on 9/10/2018, 2:59 AM

@TheBaboTv Have you tried converting your footage to a more Vegas friendly format? ProRes and DNxHD may still not play well in Vegas as both are more Apple related formates.

@Kinvermark Don’t like the truth? VP15 is full of bugs that will never be resolved and now we have VP16, an even bigger disaster. I would be still all ok with it if both would have been free upgrades and we all become beta testers. I am currently testing. VP16 but will be over in 15 days and beyond that, I won’t be able to test it again; I tried contacting sales when my VP15 trial expires and they refused to reset my trial. As such, I didn’t buy and the same will happen with VP16, very very poor marketing.

D7K wrote on 9/10/2018, 9:53 AM

We all know what the definition of insanity is, so to those who keep trying or buying Vegas and it doesn't work for you perhaps you should see the answer somewhere else.

Kinvermark wrote on 9/10/2018, 10:13 AM

+1. ALWAYS test the trial first. Then if it doesn't suit you, you don't lose any money and can move on to something else.

@OldSmoke

I agree that Magix should use PUBLIC BETAS, if that is what you are suggesting.

The other issue is one of forum decorum: When you don't like your hotel room, you speak (nicely) to the front desk; you don't yell at the other guests. Complaints without purpose or peer-answerable questions are pointless here. Don't you agree?

OldSmoke wrote on 9/10/2018, 10:27 AM

@Kinvermark No, I don’t speak nicely to the front desk if I paid full price for a room with sea view and I get a room with view to the highway, an unmade bed and no towels. Also, there is no front desk we can yell at and as such may come here to vent their frustration, especially long term users that have been left in the dust. It is beyond me that software companies can get away with selling defective products and never have fix them at all.

Kinvermark wrote on 9/10/2018, 10:37 AM

Talk to Magix customer service or tech support. There is no "right to vent." It's just bad manners.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/10/2018, 10:42 AM

Ok, can we all go back to discuss in a more specific way what issues you see with the software? They sell no sea view, and - at least some of you - know quite well that blowing of steam is against the community rules.

Thank you.

digilyd wrote on 9/10/2018, 10:54 AM

Try to update your GPU drivers. The NVENC stuff disappearing is usually a dead giveaway of that being the cause.

Nah, last weeks driver of the week broke the box, error 43, back to the driver from March 23, that one Windows likes and installed when I put the card back in this 3MHz dual xeon 490 after having toiled with the card getting constantly disabled in a 2something dual xeon megahz 490. I tend to think this card needs a firmware update, but none seems available. The previous owner only had it for a year before updating it to a 1080ti .... hmmm ...there IS an update .... I'll be back later .... [addendum] ...that failed, upgrade was apparently not applicable, it was about improved compatibility for the newfangled (cheaper to produce] video card connectors.

Finally the woes appear explained, my 1050ti is NOT 1050ti, it is a FAKE 1050ti according to GPU-Z.

Marcin wrote on 9/10/2018, 11:15 AM

Ahhh, a new version/generation of a poorly written video editing program. I've been reading many posts of problems with version 16. The many issues that plague Vegas Pro has been going on for many versions of this program. Instead of releasing updates to known problems, they just call it a new version to squeeze more money from consumers. It's shameful. Plus, I've seen many "jump ship" to other video editing programs, such as Davinci Resolve. I also see the volume of users of Vegas Pro diminish over the years. I foresee this program "biting the dust" in the near future.

You're right, I've been working at Vegas pro for years and I'm also thinking about changing the software

Smooth work is very poor,and more and more mistakes:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/problem-with-velocity-and-interpolate-fileld--104443/

Where are the functions that are so long-awaited:

high quality slow-motion (optical flow),syncing Audio and Video, Lanczos 3,

Why preview the worst of all movie processing programs.

carsos00 wrote on 9/10/2018, 1:10 PM

Thank you very much for release of VEGAS Pro 16 Update 1 (build 261).

However, there are no changes for the phenomenon to which an error happens by a start of VEGAS Pro 16.

An error report is being also sent, but improvement by all means, please.

By the way, VEGAS Pro 15 and VEGAS Pro 14 can be started, and it can ordinarily be used.
 

I have the same issue, as soon as VEGAS Pro 16 is started, get a crash report, updated nividia drivers...still the same....not happy!!!!!....have ongoing projects that will require using pro 15

Kinvermark wrote on 9/10/2018, 2:53 PM

Did you go through the troubleshooter guide for this?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-vegas-pro-won-t-start-what-can-i-do--104784/

donde wrote on 9/10/2018, 3:27 PM

@richardbushell

I bought and installed the 16 Suite and after installing the Suite, Vegas simply wouldn’t start. Here’s how I got things working.

Install 16 Suite… test: Vegas didn’t start
Install the latest update of Vegas Pro 16… test: still would not start
Remove the Hitfilm Ignite Pro that got installed with the Suite
Right click the Vegas 16 icon, Hold CTRL+SHIFT and select open from the pop up menu, this invokes Vegas "Restore Defaults" Startup
In the pop up window check the option to remove items from the cache
Vegas 16 started for first time !!
Go into Options – Preferences and
- General Tab: Disable “Allow legacy GPU rendering”
- Video Tab: Disable GPU acceleration
- Set other options like I had in Vegas 15
- Note: VST Effects… turn off Izotope/ACID/Samplitude effects you’ll never use in Vegas
- Click APPLY and OK
Exit and restart Vegas 16… starts ok
Goto Hitfilm site and download the trial Ignite Pro, install that
When asked, enter the serial number provided with the 16 Suite
Start Vegas 16… starts ok and Ignite Pro works, also proDAD VitaScene worked
At this point I discovered the Sapphire Render Units that came with 15 Suite no longer worked
Emailed Boris FX about the problem… they said you can’t have both a v10 (Render Units) and V11 (Light Units) together… either both 10 or 11, not a mix, but they agreed to a free downgrade of my V11 Light units to v10 (not received as of this moment)

Hope this helps

Don

Summary: Vegas 16 had trouble loading the version of Ignite Pro and I believe some of my legacy ACID, Sony Vegas, Samplitude and other VST plugins. Clearing the cache using Vegas CTRL+SHIFT start mode got me past that. The issue with the mix of v10/v11 Sapphire Units is still not entirely resolved and is irritating. BTW: if developers are listening, they need to test load their products on systems like long term customers have, with all the applications I mentioned previously and with all Vegas 15 Suite components. Thanks

donde wrote on 9/10/2018, 4:40 PM

Good news about Sapphire... Boris FX authorized a free update of my v10 Render Unit (came with Vegas 15 Pro Suite) to v11. This would match the v11 Sapphire Lighting Unit that came with Vegas 16 Suite. FYI. I started this process by writting a trouble ticket on the Boris FX site.

Hope this helps

- Don