VEGAS Pro 19 Update 5 (Build 643)

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Todd-Fink wrote on 7/2/2022, 1:04 PM

Thank you todd-b. I tried enabling the HEVC legacy, along with the AVC. It did run smoother but I kept getting severe crashes so I am limping along with HEVC legacy disabled and AVC enabled. Is it hard to switch back to version 550?

Reyfox wrote on 7/2/2022, 3:24 PM

@JeanG I shoot with a G9 also. I've shot with just about every setting from 1080HD up to 422 10bit 4K and have had no issues with 643 except excessive RAM usage.

It would also help if you provide more information expect "crashes". Follow the directions in this LINK, especially part B.

todd-b wrote on 7/2/2022, 8:24 PM

@Todd-Fink There are direct links to previous versions. Also if you downloaded an AI model for 643 you may need the previous version for 550 which is VEGAS Deep Learning Models 19.1.0.0. Does anyone know if that is necessary? Plenty of people were complaining about 550 too though

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-where-can-i-download-vegas-pro-and-other-vegas-software--104782/

fifonik wrote on 7/3/2022, 12:43 AM

What Magix has done with the simple overwriting of version 636 with 643 contradicts all basic rules of quality management and document control.

+1

Another bad idea was to make saves within one version to be incompatible.

I tried to update from 550 to 636 and all my settings reset so I rolled back straight away.

Do not feel comfortable to try 643 as I'm in the middle of a few projects atm.

Is it possible to disable notification about new version on Vegas startup?

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 4TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 21H2

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19

Todd-Fink wrote on 7/3/2022, 1:59 AM

@todd-b Thanks again! I think I've found an intermediate solution until Vegas makes a version that can play 10-Bit video smoothly in the preview screen. I've enabled AVC Legacy, but not HEVC Legacy, and then converted the 10-Bit files to regular 8-Bit. Doing this makes the video playback smooth as butter, even with heavy 4K media. Hopefully, in time, Vegas will remedy this issue. I'm going to stick with version 643 as I assume it's better than the previous versions.

JeanG wrote on 7/3/2022, 2:48 AM

@JeanG I shoot with a G9 also. I've shot with just about every setting from 1080HD up to 422 10bit 4K and have had no issues with 643 except excessive RAM usage.

It would also help if you provide more information expect "crashes". Follow the directions in this LINK, especially part B.

Sorry for my English, I speak French

The problem is with Vegas version 19.0.643

OS: Windows 11x64 Pro 21H2 2200.778

Camera:

- GoPro 8 and 10 100 Mb/s 3840*2160 50 FPS HEVC

- Panasonic G9 150Mbps 3840*2160 AVC (4:2:0 8bit)

- Panasonic S5 200Mbps 3840*2160 HEVC (4:2:0 10bit)

The goal is to make a high quality UHD film.

The total duration of the film is 80 minutes

The problems start when I'm about 30 minutes into the movie

On an AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX 32gb ram + NVIDIA RTX 3060 6GB laptop:

- Vegas freezes and crashes the system, the only solution is to physically shutdown the computer

On an Intel I7 10700 32 GB ram + Nvidia Quadro T1000 computer

- Vegas crashes and crashes. (Kernel error in event log)

I reverted to Vegas version 19.0.636 and this one works.

 

EfGe wrote on 7/4/2022, 10:27 AM

I came here to see if with the latest update (643) the settings again reset. I see there are people with several issues. That's a shame. I guess I will skip 643 for now. I can't risk it. I am not envious of the programmers of such complicated software, but as I am already running 19 on less than min req hardware (a lowly i7 5960X), I don't want to risk it.

Good luck all.

fr0sty wrote on 7/4/2022, 11:11 AM

FWIW, even versions of VEGAS hailed by the community as "the most stable release yet" typically have people in the update thread saying it didn't work right for them. There has never been an update where everyone was like "This just works perfectly!"... unfortunately, that's something that just doesn't happen in software development. The settings reset issue should be resolved with 643... but if 626 is working for you, stick with it.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Mark-Linenbroker wrote on 7/4/2022, 12:10 PM

Build 643 seems to have fixed the issue I was having with rendering lockups with Build 636. It failed on my first attempt, but I've had many successful renders since then. Working environment seems quite stable. Occasionally, I get a crash if I'm jumping back and forth on a track using the JKL shuttle but it's infrequent and keeps me honest saving the file often. I initially, thought the playback of the video when editing was dropping a lot of frames (compared with Build 550), but I set playback to "best" and it seems smooth now.

This is a nice upgrade over 550 - Thanx guys!

Last changed by Mark-Linenbroker on 7/4/2022, 12:14 PM, changed a total of 4 times.

Windows 11; GPU Nvidia GTX 1070

Most often edit GoPro files 1920x1080. Videos may have up to 9 tracks.

General
Complete name                            : D:\Produce\Backrow.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 153 MiB
Duration                                 : 1 min 47 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.0 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-06-06 00:37:55
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-06-06 00:37:55

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main@L4@High
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1 min 47 s
Bit rate                                 : 11.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.190
Stream size                              : 151 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-06-06 00:38:00
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-06-06 00:38:00
Color range                              : Limited
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 1 min 47 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 2.42 MiB (2%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-06-06 00:38:00
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-06-06 00:38:00
 

 

awfulTHEmovie wrote on 7/5/2022, 6:43 AM

hello
with the new update, nested 32-bit float (video level) *.veg projects didnt show up for me after import them into the timeline (no video picture).
audio waveform is shown and in the trim-window the videocontent shows also up.

for testing:
- do a 32bit-floating point (videolevels) project with a videotrack.

- insert colorbars & save project

- insert the *.veg file as nested videofile into the timeline of a new project.

anyone has an idea how to workaround this?

 

Reyfox wrote on 7/5/2022, 1:13 PM

With B643, if I open any project, it opens fine. But when I decide to start a new project (File>New...), the RAM stays the same. I have to exit Vegas and restart it to clear the RAM that was used in the previous project.

Wondering if I am the only one experiencing this, and other RAM related issues.

Vincent-Brice wrote on 7/6/2022, 4:09 PM

@Reyfox Yep, just tried it and mines the same, though I didn't see any performance issues. I did about a second long Shift B and then a "Clear Dynamic Ram Preview" and it released both system and VRAM.

Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2 motherboard, AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, Gigabyte AMD RX 6800 XT, 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3600MHz, 500GB Corsair Force MP600 Gen 4 M.2 C:drive for windows and programs, 500GB Samsung Sata SSD EVO D:drive for video files, 1TB Samsung Sata SSD EVO E:drive for all other data, Creative Sound Blaster Z sound card, Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce 360 CPU cooler.

Windows 11 Pro 21H2, Vegas 19 Build 643, AMD Adrenalin Edition 22.5.1

Reyfox wrote on 7/6/2022, 4:41 PM

@Vincent-Brice some of my projects are complex with lots of fx/compositing/etc. In themselves, they use up a lot of system RAM. But opening the same project in VP18 (copying the VP19 timeline and pasting it in VP18), VP18 uses much less RAM.

And in 19, if I decide to start a new project, that RAM what was used by the previous project is not released. Only exiting and restarting releases the RAM.

todd-b wrote on 7/6/2022, 9:33 PM

@Reyfox make the simplest low resource project possible, save. After you complete the complex project , load the simple project and close and start new project. It removes most of the stuck ram and GPU Vram.

643 behaves oddly though. I've seen the same project using 3.2GB ram, but also up to 5.7GB ram, and I have no idea what's going on there because as I mentioned loading a saved project should release existing stuck ram/Vram. Maybe not always

arthur7 wrote on 7/7/2022, 2:51 AM

The main thing about Vegas ALL THESE YEARS is it hangs every 20 minutes of scrubbing and editing the timeline🙁🙁,not to mention what ahppens when applied plugin fx to clips. SADLY i dont see improvement over performance.

walter-i. wrote on 7/7/2022, 4:56 AM

The main thing about Vegas ALL THESE YEARS is it hangs every 20 minutes of scrubbing and editing the timeline🙁🙁,not to mention what ahppens when applied plugin fx to clips. SADLY i dont see improvement over performance.

@arthur7
Open a new - own - thread, and tell us there especially about your used media and your system resources (you should include the system resources in your profile under "Signature", so that the questions about it are unnecessary in the future).

I had a similar problem once, then my used media was the cause.

Reyfox wrote on 7/7/2022, 5:08 AM

@todd-b, RAM still isn't released until I actually exit VP19. Yes, some of it is, but when the project is up there in RAM usage (like you, I don't know why it's so high), there is still a large amount of RAM not freed until exiting the program.

arthur7 wrote on 7/7/2022, 5:29 AM

The main thing about Vegas ALL THESE YEARS is it hangs every 20 minutes of scrubbing and editing the timeline🙁🙁,not to mention what ahppens when applied plugin fx to clips. SADLY i dont see improvement over performance.

@arthur7
Open a new - own - thread, and tell us there especially about your used media and your system resources (you should include the system resources in your profile under "Signature", so that the questions about it are unnecessary in the future).

I had a similar problem once, then my used media was the cause.

It doesnt matter whatever file is being used this happens always and forever to all my computers, as long as others i know. I work files from Sony, Canon, Panasonic in MP4 format. Vegas goes more and more slugish until it just crashes. I feel like it has to be with bad management of the ideo memory used to preview clips in the timeline. Every time in every PC all these years since is the same awful performance no matter i use iGPU, eGPU Intel or nVidia performance and hanging makes it unusable and torturous to work with.

Reyfox wrote on 7/7/2022, 5:45 AM

@arthur7, yes your own thread to go into more detail. Repeating what you've already said doesn't really help in trying to see where specifically the problem is. I've worked for hours on complex videos in VP19 (also 18, 17, 16, 15) and the software keeps on going for "me". Although RAM usage in 19 is a problem, I've still worked for several hours without crashes.

Bruggeling wrote on 7/7/2022, 8:15 AM

@Max-Hind Yes, it happens for me also. May I suggest an easy and quick workaround, Ctrl+A?

That is not quite the same, as there could be media in the project that was loaded before.

Main cameras Panasonic S5, still using some FZ1000

Windows 11
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 4.20 GHz
GPU NVidia Geforce RTX 2070 super
RAM 32,0 GB

Main disk M2 2 Terabyte, other disks SSD on SATA, some on USB.

todd-b wrote on 7/9/2022, 1:12 AM

This is the date I installed VP19-643, ever since I've had crashes due to VST SERVER before that I did not.

Anyone else experience this?

Type View reliability history into windows task bar to check

I haven't installed any VST's lately, it seems like 643 is crashing over VST's previous builds did not have a problem with. I upgraded from build 532. It happens every day

Reyfox wrote on 7/9/2022, 4:50 AM

@todd-b not I. I don't have many VST's, but I did a "Refresh" and there are no issues with VST Server (32bit) which is listed in the Vegas Task Manage. No problems, nor have their ever been any.

My VST's span 3 different folder locations.

Noel-Ong wrote on 7/13/2022, 3:02 AM

Why is the Vegas Pro 19 crashing so often? I have noticed this since the last major update. I updated a week or so ago and I am getting multiple crashes when i am starting to work.

Reyfox wrote on 7/13/2022, 5:19 AM

@Noel-Ong start your own new thread and include the information posted HERE, especially "B" and "C".

Without that information, no one can really help you. Especially, for me, who is not experiencing "multiple crashes".