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walter-i. wrote on 3/15/2023, 4:48 AM

I think your post would fit better in this thread - that's where the developers are reading too.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/

You have my vote.

FayFen wrote on 3/15/2023, 4:54 AM

Tired of browsing for that fx you like but can't remember even the first letter of it's name?

 

 

 

If the favorite was "actually" a favorite, it could solve part of it.

(VP19)

Gid wrote on 3/15/2023, 7:40 AM

@noisywan Hi, I get that, I create presets with names like Brightness or Colour, there's quite a few Boris fxs that have Beat reactor inc in them, so i've created a preset that incs Beat in the name, The only problem is the Search in the FX tab doesn't find presets automatically, you have to go down the whole list to fill some kind of memory cache, only then when i search for 'Beat' will it find those presets,

I place my microphone stand on the ∇ button & let it scroll down, If Vegas crashes tho that cache is lost,

 

 

Vegas Pro 20
Vegas Pro/Post 19 (Latest build), HitFilm Pro,  
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2023 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Adobe After Effects
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
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At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G

Reyfox wrote on 3/15/2023, 9:01 AM

@Gid I too have Continuum 2023, and when I look for Beat Reactor, I don't see it in the Video FX window like you do. I did the scrolling through all the effects. Yes, Beat is there in those FX, but it's not listed when I search for it. I had to look at what specific FX had it by looking at your video.

Did you have to create the preset first?

m3lquixd wrote on 3/15/2023, 9:08 AM

🙋

About me:
Hi! Melqui Calheiros Here. I've been using Vegas as my only video editor for over 10 years. I edit professionally for various influencers, public bodies and small businesses. My goal is to squeeze Vegas to the fullest! And end the prejudice that software has here in Brazil.

⬇️ Some of my jobs. ⬇️
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/post-your-vegas-creations--109464/?page=37#ca872169

PC Specs:
Operating System:
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
CPU:
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RAM:
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noisywan wrote on 3/15/2023, 9:42 AM

I use several other apps and search box helps A LOT.

For ex I need to add a compressor, I just type `comp` and see all the compressors available in the system.

Very common, helpful and easy to use feature I think.

After all, Media Bin has it, why Plugin Chooser doesn't ...

 

 

 

noisywan wrote on 3/15/2023, 9:45 AM

I think your post would fit better in this thread - that's where the developers are reading too.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/

You have my vote.

I wanted to hear oppositions first :)

Even very common and basic features already in use by many other apps could get dissed by some users here.

EDIT: I just added it there, thanks!

 

Gid wrote on 3/15/2023, 10:54 AM

Did you have to create the preset first?

@Reyfox Yes i created a preset, I had to go through all fxs to find them, I asked Boris's Peter if they had a list of the fxs that had it inc Beat Reactor, he said he'd make one but I never got it & searching on their page I don't see one,

I did say 'there's quite a few Boris fxs that have Beat reactor inc in them, so i've created a preset that incs Beat in the name' . have I misread your comment?

Vegas Pro 20
Vegas Pro/Post 19 (Latest build), HitFilm Pro,  
Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2023 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
Adobe After Effects
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G

Reyfox wrote on 3/16/2023, 3:56 AM

@Gid, I re-read your comment and I misread it. Sorry about that. Meds for a bad back in action. Thanks for pointing that out. While it would be nice to see Beat in the search engine, then that would have to be also available to other plugins with say, Mocha or other subsets of the fx plugins.

 

lan-mLMC wrote on 3/21/2023, 1:22 AM

@Rednroll Since that thread was closed, I am responding to you here.

You use the example of only 3 Vegas users who can actively develope Reaper to refute my point (Vegas Team is short on manpower).

But you ignore that Vegas Pro is much harder to develop and maintain than Reaper.

Sonic Foundry created Vegas, and Vegas was considered a major innovation in audio and video at the time.

But in terms of codebase level, it was actually an incomplete product. It uses a lot of old programming techniques and is way behind the times.

Later, Sony bought it and didn't rewrite it in time using newer programming techniques. This leads to a growing number of hidden dangers.

Finally in 2014. Sony had to rewrite Vegas because its codebase was far behind other Nles of its time. But Vegas is a full-featured pro NLE, so rewriting its all features was not an easy task.

Sony Creative Software created Catalyst Edit after a two-year rewrite. However, as we have seen, Catalyst Edit has only a fraction of the capabilities of Vegas Pro, and it will take more time and resources from Sony to fully make Catalyst catch up Vegas. Yes, Sony finally gave up, and Sony Creative Software also went bankrupt because of this.

Therefore, the development and maintenance of Vegas Pro is actually more difficult than many similar softwares.

Rednroll wrote on 3/21/2023, 4:09 AM

I won't pretend to know the different coding challenges for each app. Reaper was started in 2004 with an initial public release in 2006 and is coded in C,C++,and Assembly language which is not anything new or modern. Its development began over 19 years ago. It's not some new kid on the block like you're trying to make it out to be compared to Vegas. So maybe you should reconsider your comparison since it seems to be an inaccurate analogy based on nothing more than speculation assumptions about Reaper.

I just know by the look of how things are currently progressing. One of them is flourishing by pumping out new user requested features on a bi-weekly basis, is rock solid, has awesome modern looking interface designs, many created by users and the other is struggling to add basic modern functions and looking long in the tooth with more resources. One of these apps seems to have gotten it right from the ground up design architecture and the other may need to go back to the drawing board and reconsider where things went wrong from the start to get into the current situation struggles. If it's that difficult to maintain Vegas, maybe Magix should consider reaching out to Justin Frankel for some s/w architecture consulting advise since that is what is really at the fundamental core of each apps design and its associated developmental evolution and maintenance, is its foundational architecture design. When you get the architecture design right, you don't need to throw the baby out with the bath when things evolve and improvements need to be made. You start by remodeling one room section at a time and eventually you reach a point where you sit back and say, "Hey look, our old and outdated house is now modern".

I love Vegas, but from a user perspective there are quite a few things which are fundamentally flawed and can be done much better. For example, I find it ridiculous that with each new version release you can't even open a newer version project file on previous version releases. Every other app I know such as Photoshop, Excel, Word, etc I can save a project file and open it in an older version. I may be prompted on the older version with a message which says, "some functions may be discarded, do you wish to continue?" as would be expected but at least I can open it and do something with it when needed.

Rednroll wrote on 3/21/2023, 6:13 AM

Back on Topic: +1 for a plugin search function, I know I enjoy using that in the other app I now use for audio work after having used Vegas, Acid and Sound Forge for many years without it. My workaround is that I've spent many hours in Vegas, Acid and Forge individually organizing my plugins in their plugin tab windows. So I go to my created "Dynamics plugin" folder whenever I need to find a compressor, where my list of options to look through is reduced. However, where those arrangement efforts tend to get lost is with each new version release since I end up having to redo those efforts all over again. In my other audio app I'm also able to perform those same type of plugin organization arrangement in combination with the search function and it additionally has a slick export/import configuration settings where those time consuming organizational efforts haven't gotten lost with each new version release or whenever I decide to purchase a new PC. I just select to export all my configuration settings, and then import them into the new version or onto my new PC. I just purchased a new PC and am now dreading going through those same setup steps again with Sound Forge and Vegas. I know there's a Vegas file hidden away which contains all that info, need to go look up what the name of it was again to help reduce some setup time. Unfortunately, I don't even have that hack work around option with Sound Forge since those configurations are buried somewhere deep in the Windows registry for some odd reason. Probably not even going to bother installing Acid on the new system.