VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion

NickHope wrote on 8/28/2017, 4:02 AM

VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 has been released.

General discussion in here please. Please make a new post or comment on an existing one for specific issues.

New Features

A new MAGIX AVC/AAC codec significantly accelerates encoding on machines that utilize Intel® Quick Sync Video (QSV) technology
A new MAGIX AVC/AAC codec significantly accelerates encoding on machines equipped with modern NVIDIA graphics card GPU technology
The user can now select from the list of attributes of a copied timeline clip event to specify which attributes will be pasted into a target event
ACES 1.0 support enable users to work with the expanded color spaces and dynamic range of modern cameras.
More efficient handling of AVC files on the timeline through Intel QSV technology
Picture-in-picture OFX plug-in enables the user to perform size and position adjustments of video at any of the four effects levels (including track and event) through parameter adjustment controls and direct interaction with the Video Preview window
Crop OFX plug-in enables the user to quickly crop out portions of a video at any of the four effects levels (including track and event) through parameter adjustment controls and direct interaction with the Video Preview window
The user can specify which track header buttons and controls appear on tracks and set these (separate for audio and video tracks) as project defaults for all new tracks in the current and new projects. Controls that have been hidden can be accessed through a new "hamburger button" menu
LUT Filter OFX plug-in enables the user to apply LUTs to their project at any of the four supported FX levels (event, track, media, and video bus)
Redesigned timeline clip events now contain headers to hold important information and buttons and can be customized through the hamburger button/menu system.
The user can specify which controls appear in the transport area of both the Trimmer Window and the Video Preview window as project defaults for the current and new projects. Controls that have been hidden can be accessed through a new "hamburger button" menu
A simple "one-click" option creates a freeze frame on all selected events touched by the timeline cursor
Users can specify one of four options for the shading of the VEGAS Pro interface ranging from very bright to a dark interface
Users can define the amount (strength) of color they want shown in their buttons
Modern controls enable logical docking and undocking of windows and maximizing windows within a dock
A user-friendly and intuitive Render As dialog box makes it easy to understand and specify render options
The Share Online option now provides direct render-and-upload operations for YouTube, FaceBook, and Vimeo
Optimized default user layout to reduce visual clutter
Non-selected timeline clip events are now the same color as the corresponding track header while selected events are white. This (while directly opposite previous behavior) reduces visual "clutter" and the harsh appearance of events, particularly in large projects
New layout option enables user to switch back to the VEGAS Pro 14 default layout, including revealing all buttons in the hamburger menu system
Updated button glyph for the Record and Arm for Record buttons clarifies the function of these buttons
The default Pan type has been changed to Constant Power which is the most logical and expected type
Audio notification alerts you when your render is complete for all format types

Plus (not officially announced)...

Panasonic GH5 10-bit 422 footage now opens correctly
The video stream of JVC YUV 4:2:2 footage now decodes correctly
iPhone/iPad footage now opens correctly (without requiring Quicktime)
"Enable Media Manager" was moved to an internal preference

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Comments

Mindmatter wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:07 AM

On the trial version still.

So far , preview seems faster, my biggest issue...but I need more real world testing. I miss a motion tracker for sure.

Just a few cosmetic complaints on my part:

* Audio and Video tracks are STILL too similar. Can you please make them look distinguably DIFFERENT?

* Track motion active / not active STILL has the 2 same almost indistinguishable colors - blue and slightly lighter blue. I can't believe I'm the only one having trouble and having to look twice to notice the diffrence. red / blue, yellow / pink whatever , but please, 2 different colors.

* The new event design makes no sense to me. From a certain track hight on downwards, it's not possible to grab the fade corners anymore. For that, the track needs to be much higher than it used to, as the active event part is now reduced to fit under a fixed colored info bar, infos that used to simply be embedded in the event. Additionally, that fixed colored bar doesn't change its size, but changing the track hight now makes the thumbnails disappear...Why? It now also looks as if the alpha level bar is at the middle instead of at the top.

* the cursive "fx" ..is plain ugly. I'd prefer a symbol like before.

* track colors still limited to the same weird 8??

Oh, and V15 crashed as soon as I started firefox to go online...never happened before.

Not sure if this makes me want to upgrade tbh. Probably need more tetsing. As fgar as the price goes - I think it's hefty. Not even a grace period for those who upgraded to V14 recently...not very nice.

26mook wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:10 AM

It's about 1 year and 6 months since we've paid for Magix vegas Pro 14 - and we'll have to pay again - it will not be me! I have the Studio Version of Davinci resolve 14 - Goodbye Magix!

Jam_One wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:12 AM

Jam_One, please see here.

Thank you very much, Marco. !

In my case it was "Semw.Filters.AutoLevels" who "spoiled the day".

Peter_P wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:18 AM

* The new event design makes no sense to me. From a certain track hight on downwards, it's not possible to grab the fade corners anymore. For that, the track needs to be much higher than it used to, as the active event part is now reduced to line 2 thirds of the track hight to make room for additional info that used to be embedded in the event. Why? It now also looks as if the alpha level bar is at the middle instead of at the top.

On that point I'm with you. The new design also wasts vertical space in the time line area. The new top part should be transparent and let the thumbs be visible in this area.

Robert W wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:19 AM

Oh, and V15 crashed as soon as I started firefox to go online...never happened before.

That is strange. Running one application should not really cause another to crash in a protected memory system. Could it possible be due to a problem with releasing locks on files if you leave the Vegas application window to start Firefox?

Not sure if this makes me want to upgrade tbh. Probably need more tetsing. As fgar as the price goes - I think it's hefty. Not even a grace period for those who upgraded to V14 recently...not very nice.

There was a post from Mattias recently suggesting that users who have recently upgraded to 14 should contact support. They were still pushing the 14 upgrades after the Vegas 15 release date had been announced via both email and in the application via net notify. I still to this day have not got an email advising of Vegas 15's release. It is all very shifty.

Robert W wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:20 AM

* The new event design makes no sense to me. From a certain track hight on downwards, it's not possible to grab the fade corners anymore. For that, the track needs to be much higher than it used to, as the active event part is now reduced to line 2 thirds of the track hight to make room for additional info that used to be embedded in the event. Why? It now also looks as if the alpha level bar is at the middle instead of at the top.

On that point I'm with you. The new design also wasts vertical space in the time line area. The new top part should be transparent and let the thumbs be visible in this area.

Is there any option to revert to the old design?

Master86 wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:20 AM

For me and I have always said, the end of Vegas is since version 13. The suite, 14 and now the 15, they no longer serve anything: same codecs, and others .. Just what has changed, the Interface design and some OFX plugin simply. The rest always the software crashing and so on. It will be the same for me, I will not pay this version. Vegas is fucked and really dead. Stop this software completely and create in a new and much more complete, and that really works. I'm fed up, I go to First Pro which is more complete. Farewell
Goodluck

Master86 wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:21 AM

Stop this software, it's really a massacre since the 14. And create in a whole new and that really works! Good luck

adrmontoy wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:24 AM

* El nuevo diseño del evento no tiene sentido para mí. A partir de cierta altura sobre la pista hacia abajo, no es posible tomar las curvas de fundido más. Por eso, la pista tiene que ser mucho mayor de lo que solía, como la parte de sucesos activo se reduce ahora a la línea 2 tercios de la altura de pista para hacer espacio para información adicional que solía ser incrustado en el evento. ¿Por qué? Ahora también parece como si la barra de nivel alfa se encuentra en el centro en lugar de en la parte superior.

En ese momento yo estoy contigo. El nuevo diseño también wasts espacio vertical en el área de la línea de tiempo. La nueva parte superior debe ser transparente y dejar que los pulgares estén visibles en esta área.

Or even that top line can be optional!!!!! I do not like it very much, although I understand its practical meaning!

Mindmatter wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:25 AM

* The new event design makes no sense to me. From a certain track hight on downwards, it's not possible to grab the fade corners anymore. For that, the track needs to be much higher than it used to, as the active event part is now reduced to line 2 thirds of the track hight to make room for additional info that used to be embedded in the event. Why? It now also looks as if the alpha level bar is at the middle instead of at the top.

On that point I'm with you. The new design also wasts vertical space in the time line area. The new top part should be transparent and let the thumbs be visible in this area.

Is there any option to revert to the old design?

Absolutely a showstopper for me. I just realized the thumbs are practically invisible unless you make the track far too high to have a clean working space that lets you see all of your tracks. Working with the track hight I normally use, I now only see colored bars. Totally unusable.

Seriously, I wonder if the designers actually have to practically use and work with their design...

Robert W wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:33 AM

Is there any option to revert to the old design?

Absolutely a showstopper for me. I just realized the thumbs are practically invisible unless you make the track far too high to have a clean working space that lets you see all of your tracks. Working with the track hight I normally use, I now only see colored bars. Totally unusable.

Seriously, I wonder if the designers actually have to practically use and work with their design...

I think that is highly unlikely. If they actually had people in their office producing videos full time, they would surely have taken the application in a different direction. It seems as if it is the blind leading the blind.

Martin L wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:40 AM

" the end of Vegas is since version 13. "

Aaa, I think you said that already...

Kraznet_UK wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:45 AM

Is there any option to revert to the old design

Seems there is : New layout option enables user to switch back to the VEGAS Pro 14 default layout, including revealing all buttons in the hamburger menu system

Mindmatter wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:50 AM

Seriously, dear people at Magix, which one makes more sense? What were you thinking?

Kraznet_UK wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:52 AM

For some reason my GFX960 isn't showing up in the list in V15? Although it is showing in V14.

V14:

V15:

Mindmatter wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:54 AM

Is there any option to revert to the old design

Seeems there is : New layout option enables user to switch back to the VEGAS Pro 14 default layout, including revealing all buttons in the hamburger menu system

I switched to "vegas pro 14 default" in the view menu. It doesn't change anything except the workspace layout it seems.

adrmontoy wrote on 8/28/2017, 6:55 AM

En serio, querido pueblo en Magix, ¿cuál tiene más sentido? ¿Que estabas pensando?

It is unfortunate!

jurgen wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:11 AM

Preview performance in VP15 doesn't seem to have improved much. A 4k file with only one magic bulletfx looks doesn't seem to play nicely, it's about the same as in VP14. My computer is a 36core/72threads dual cpu, Quadro K5000 and 192GB ram inside and all ssd pro's from samsung so it's probabely not the pc that is not up to the task :-). The whole pc even went blank when I closed VP15 and I had to restart, never happened in 14

Peter_P wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:17 AM

I switched to "vegas pro 14 default" in the view menu. It doesn't change anything except the workspace layout it seems.

That's correct. As far as I know, there is no option on Vp15 to get the normal track appearance, we know and love from older Vegas pro versions.

David wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:17 AM

Any new sound features? - does the EQ still click?

Peter_P wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:18 AM

For some reason my GFX960 isn't showing up in the list in V15? Although it is showing in V14.

V15:

V14:

Are you running the latest drivers?

Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:22 AM

Because the 8k is the next generation of videos and adobe is already exporting in 8k in HEVC and Vegas Pro 15 no, nor version 14. A shame not to be more up to the level than the others who have competed.
Even on Premier Pro we can export in any resolution we want, without limitation in QuickTime and MP4, Vegas Pro = no.
I say that Vegas Pro is moving in a direction that will make lose a lot of people who loved this software. I say it, and I know I'm right!

Exporting in 8K in HEVC ... sounds interesting. Where do you need that? Where are 8K cameras - I do not see that by now really.

I think the preparation for HDR - based on ACES - is more important for the future.

set wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:26 AM

Detailed official list :

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/release-vegas-pro-15-inspiration-meets-productivity--108313/

altarvic wrote on 8/28/2017, 7:26 AM

As far as I know, there is no option on Vp15 to get the normal track appearance, we know and love from older Vegas pro versions.

Don't you like hamburgers?

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