VEGAS Pro 18 Update 5 (build 527)

RogerS wrote on 5/15/2021, 12:20 AM

Build 527 will not run on my system: Win 10 64-bit build 10.0.19042 on AMD MSI 7B79 Ryzen 7 3700x & AMD Radeon R9 360

I've tried reporting via the crash window (attached) but seems there is no response from magix support.

Have tried re-installing several times and deleting all registry keys and re-booting prior to re-installallation. Pls email me a link to the previous build that I may download, which was working. From what I gather magix in all its wisdom does not have a registered user accessible archive of older versions.

I am having the same problem, crashes within 10min of launch (Win 10-64 on AMD Asus ROG Zenith Extreme w/ Threadripper 2950X & Asus Strix 1080Ti w/ 64GB G.SKILL 3200 RAM).

@bdbutte You are actually not having the same problem. Crash on launch and crash 10 minutes in are totally different. He's on AMD and you're on NVIDIA. We just solved his problem by choosing the appropriate AMD driver that was to blame. Are you on the NVIDIA Studio (not gaming) driver?

walter-i. wrote on 5/15/2021, 3:26 AM

@bdbutte
Please also do what the sign says

Happy wrote on 5/15/2021, 3:43 AM

Nobody solved the problem with default settings after launch?

Everything that i saved is gone, settings always resets after launch???

Please fix this!💯🙏

Windows 10 20H2?...

vicmilt1 wrote on 5/15/2021, 9:41 AM

I have used Vegas for 20 yrs. Love it. VP17 (still installed) runs my mov files perfectly. The latest upgrade of VP18 will not play my mov files. I am in the middle of a paying job. HELP!! VP18 WAS playing my mov files until latest upgrade 527. HELP!!

andyrpsmith wrote on 5/15/2021, 12:07 PM

Works fine (MOV) for me, is the quicktime plugin enabled under the depreciated features tab?

Jack S wrote on 5/15/2021, 4:59 PM

@vicmilt1 As @andyrpsmith says. The QT plugin can be enabled via 'Options/Preferences/Deprecated Features'.

vicmilt1 wrote on 5/15/2021, 5:52 PM

I loaded the current version of VP 18 build 527 on my laptop and it works. The mov files load.

So I erased the program from my Desktop using UNINSTAL on the control panel and reinstalled it.

I selected play Quicktime in Deprecated features. - NOTHING.

This is a nightmare. The job has been a continuing process for over two years. 26 short films. I started the edit in VP 16, continued in VP 17 and even edited in VP 18, but using the prior build 4** (I don't remember).

Surely there is a simple way to either let me reload the older build of VP 18, or of getting some professional help to make my 20 year investment in Vegas Pro WORK AGAIN.

My client doesn't want excuses and neither do I - can someone from MAGIX chime in here please?

Just link me up with MOV source files again.

Dexcon wrote on 5/15/2021, 6:42 PM

The build of Vegas Pro 18 prior to b527 was b482. The following is a link to download the b482 program:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-18-update-4-build-482--127859/

Build 527 will first need to be uninstalled before reinstalling b482.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 5/15/2021, 9:26 PM

@vicmilt1 Did you update Win10 and your video drivers to the amd enterprise versions? That worked for someone else. I suggest you also go through your preferences line by line and make sure they match your laptop which works. I'd also suggest avoiding use the obsolete quicktime plugin if possible... I uninstalled quicktime years ago and have never had a problem working with mov files. Btw, the R9 360 is a pretty lightweight card with just 2gb onboard vram... I see allot of later models, higher performance used R9's on ebay.

vicmilt1 wrote on 5/15/2021, 9:37 PM

PLEASE make build 482 available for download again so i can deliver my job.

EricLNZ wrote on 5/15/2021, 10:40 PM

@vicmilt1 Cast your eyes up this page as two posts above yours the link for Build 482 is there.

ERT wrote on 5/16/2021, 11:26 AM

Unfortunately the current version is not running stable for me, I went back to the previous version.
Regular crashes, I hope my bug reports help the dev team:

- Crash on any tasks, shorten events, load LUT, move event, etc.
- The undo history is partly not available.

I have of course updated the NVIDIA Studio driver before.

andyrpsmith wrote on 5/16/2021, 6:49 PM

There must be something up with your set up as I tried all of the above (except load a lut) with three 4K MP4 clips (Sony XAVCS) and have no problem at all. Undo history also working fine.

ERT wrote on 5/17/2021, 1:03 AM

The chrashes happen absolutely randomly. I load 20x LUTs, it works. Then I do it another time and VEGAS freezes. You can't specify it.

Now I put the previous build on last night, no crash while working.

Maybe I will try a clean install again after the project is finished

set wrote on 5/17/2021, 8:51 AM

For those who are feeling having 'more crash' with PRC report dialog box appear after reading the folder containing MP4, try it again in the next session of VP18b527 after crash happened.

Is it crashing again or just once happening.

I just had it once, but then I retry re-read the folder, and no issue... just sharing.

Rednroll wrote on 5/17/2021, 3:56 PM

Build VP18 527

I'm getting frequent crashes while making color correction adjustment, think it's related to GPU Settings not saving in preferences.

In VP17 in the past I had frequent crashes with FXs on video tracks, where I had to change preferences under the video tab of GPU acceleration to OFF. I did that in VP18, restarted VP18 as prompted, and after restart I notice it defaults back to "Optimal - Nvidia GeForce" setting.

Marco. wrote on 5/17/2021, 4:09 PM

"I did that in VP18, restarted VP18 as prompted, and after restart it defaults back to "Optimal - Nvidia GeForce"."

What about other settings you customized in Options/Preferences? Do they stay after a restart?

Rednroll wrote on 5/17/2021, 4:34 PM

"I did that in VP18, restarted VP18 as prompted, and after restart it defaults back to "Optimal - Nvidia GeForce"."

What about other settings you customized in Options/Preferences? Do they stay after a restart?

The odd thing is that one of my preference setting adjustments is to disable "Automatically open last project on startup" but didn't do that and noticed last project wasn't opening on startup.

However, to answer your question it looks like, no....none of my preference setting under the General tab are saving as well.

Rednroll wrote on 5/17/2021, 4:57 PM

"I did that in VP18, restarted VP18 as prompted, and after restart it defaults back to "Optimal - Nvidia GeForce"."

What about other settings you customized in Options/Preferences? Do they stay after a restart?

I should mention, I am on the demo version. I just restarted my system and looks like my settings are being saved now.

Marco. wrote on 5/17/2021, 5:07 PM

After the system restart and with modified and saved preferences - is VP18 build 527 stable now?

Rednroll wrote on 5/17/2021, 5:16 PM

After the system restart and with modified and saved preferences - is VP18 build 527 stable now?

YES!

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 5/17/2021, 6:26 PM

For those who are feeling having 'more crash' with PRC report dialog box appear after reading the folder containing MP4, try it again in the next session of VP18b527 after crash happened.

Is it crashing again or just once happening.

I just had it once, but then I retry re-read the folder, and no issue... just sharing.

Just got a crash after turning on thumbnails in the Vegas explorer window when I encountered a C70 mfx test clip. Did not fix itself on restart, however. Turning off thumbnail view in Vegas explorer stopped the crashes. Unless I actually tried to load that clip onto a timeline. I have 3 other C70 test clips and none of the others behave this way. Here's the mediainfo:

General
Complete name                            : D:\MISC\test clips Canon\test\C70 6400 ISO (avc 10-bit 59.94fps 422).MXF
Format                                   : MXF
Format version                           : 1.3
Format profile                           : OP-1a
Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
File size                                : 217 MiB
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 259 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : 2020-12-12 17:05:12.000
Writing application                      : CANON EOS C70 1.00Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High 4:2:2@L5.2
Format settings                          : 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201316001
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Bit rate                                 : 255 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 250 Mb/s
Width                                    : 4 096 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 1.896
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.480
Stream size                              : 213 MiB (98%)
Color range                              : Min: 0, Max: 1023, Chroma range: 1023
colour_range_Original                    : Full
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS (800.8 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 985 KiB (0%)
Locked                                   : Yes

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS (800.8 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 985 KiB (0%)
Locked                                   : Yes

Audio #3
ID                                       : 5
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS (800.8 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 985 KiB (0%)
Locked                                   : Yes

Audio #4
ID                                       : 6
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES)
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300
Duration                                 : 7 s 7 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS (800.8 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 985 KiB (0%)
Locked                                   : Yes

Other #1
ID                                       : 1-Material
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : MXF TC
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 01:15:04;34
Time code settings                       : Material Package
Time code, striped                       : Yes

Other #2
ID                                       : 1-Source
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : MXF TC
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 01:15:04;34
Time code settings                       : Source Package
Time code, striped                       : Yes

Other #3
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : SMPTE TC
Muxing mode                              : SDTI
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 01:15:04;34

Michael-Crawford wrote on 5/19/2021, 3:41 PM

Let me join the chorus of those having trouble with the latest build. After numerous changes to the settings or preferences, making sure the video driver is updated, etc., I have had to revert back to the previous version. Every single HD render I tried over the past two days failed or halted part-way through. I have had moderate luck rendering at lower resolutions (854x480). I tried GPU on and off, etc.. I am an old hand at working through the various Vegas options (since v. 8 or 9, I think) when this happens. Let me emphasize that these crashes when working on mission critical projects are both frustrating and inexcusable for a fairly mature product. This is an incremental update, yet it has introduced the instability one sees in a new version release. Let me also say that the previous version is working with no issues, so the problem is definitely in the update. Better pre-release testing would be my advice to the Magix team.

Eric-Weissenborn wrote on 5/19/2021, 5:43 PM

Does anyone know why I do not see 24FPS on the Render As drop down list? (AVCMP4/1080P). I have 2 computers that show the same thing. I see 25,30,50,60,and all the rest. Vegas 18.