Black frames in some clips in Vegas 17

Dulu wrote on 11/24/2019, 10:19 PM

Hi

I am facing an issue when a video clip is dragged on Vegas 17 timeline, it shows intermediate black frames in the preview video. But in the same video when I played in the trimmer window, it doesn't shows any black frames. I have dragged the same video file in the Vegas 16, there is no issues.

Please note this issues is only for some Video Clips not for all clips. But when I tested those clips in Vegas 16 or any other media players, I didn't saw any black frames. Can anyone advise me.

 

Below are the troubleshooting steps that I did for this case. But there is no luck

1. Disable GPU

2. Put the attribute Value of so4compoundplug to FALSE.

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  Name: 6F9A0067.MOV
  Type: AVC
  Size: 367.07 MB (375,878,056 bytes)
  Attributes: Archive

Streams  Video: 00:00:16.720, 50.000 fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC
  Audio: 00:00:16.720, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, PCM

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

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Comments

Dulu wrote on 12/1/2019, 8:38 AM

Can you anyone help me on this case

Musicvid wrote on 12/1/2019, 9:09 AM

Possibly if you include more information, including machine specs and MediaInfo.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Dulu wrote on 12/1/2019, 10:53 AM

Media Info

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General
Complete name                            : G:\My_malaysia\Liju\30_03_2017\6F9A0549.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   2015.02 (qt  /CAEP)
File size                                : 420 MiB
Duration                                 : 19 s 600 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 180 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Canon
com.apple.quicktime.model                : Canon EOS 5D Mark IV

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 19 s 600 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 178 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.718
Stream size                              : 416 MiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 19 s 600 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 3.59 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52

Other
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : QuickTime TC
Duration                                 : 19 s 600 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 03:57:19:16
Time code, striped                       : Yes
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-03-29 15:36:52

 

 

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machine specs

 

 

Windows 10 bit 1903 Build7300

Intel Core i5 7300 HQ 2.5 GHZ

16 GB ram

SSD HD 500 GB

Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 with Max Q Design 3 GB

j-v wrote on 12/1/2019, 11:53 AM

The difference in this case between VP16 and VP17 is that you have to allow Quicktime for use if you had Quicktime installed. So change the default setting in Options/Preferences/ Deprecated Features to use here also Quicktime.

Last changed by j-v on 12/1/2019, 12:15 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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Dulu wrote on 12/2/2019, 10:32 AM

Thanks J-V

 

I have changed the setting like you mentioned in the above post. But no luck

j-v wrote on 12/2/2019, 10:49 AM

Maybe you can offer us a small sourcefile in which your error occurs to test it. You must than put such a file on a cloudservice as dropbbox so we can download it from there as it is, to try out and give you our experiences.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

fifonik wrote on 12/2/2019, 2:53 PM

What is the project settings? Show us screenshot please.

Camcorder: Panasonic X1500 + Panasonic X920 + GoPro Hero 11 Black

Desktop: MB: MSI B650P, CPU: AMD Ryzen 9700X, RAM: G'Skill 32 GB DDR5@6000, Graphics card: MSI RX6600 8GB, SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ 1TB (NVMe, OS), HDD WD 4TB, HDD Toshiba 4TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22

Author of FFMetrics and FFBitrateViewer

LongIslanderrr wrote on 12/2/2019, 6:01 PM

Disable hardware decoding in "file io" tab. that fixed it for me. However. I still refuse to use vegas 17. 😰

Dulu wrote on 12/3/2019, 10:35 AM

Seems like my issue has been resolved after disabled hardware decoding.

 

Thanks Longlslanderr ,...

Thanks All .. those who replied to my query