Color Grading

Roger Bansemer wrote on 3/23/2021, 12:53 PM

How do you get the color grading features to work for an entire track. I can only get them to show up (alt G) for a single event. Also when using Alt G is there a keyboard shortcut for its exit?

Thanks, Roger

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Grazie wrote on 3/23/2021, 1:45 PM

@Roger Bansemer - Read this from the Help Menu:

"Color grading must be applied at the event level. When the Color Grading panel is open, it is automatically applied to the Event Video FX plug-in chain of any selected event. To make adjustments to the colors of the footage in your events, you must first select one event. The Color Grading panel shows the setting for that selected event. Select a different event to apply grading to that event. The Color Grading controls reset to reflect the settings applied to the currently selected event, so you can quickly switch from one event to another and quickly make adjustments to each. If no event is selected, the Color Grading panel remains visible, but its controls are temporarily disabled."

Where have you picked it up that you can choose to have it on the whole Track?

Grazie wrote on 3/23/2021, 1:46 PM

@Roger Bansemer Here's a thought use a Nested Timeline and then use Alt+G on the Nest.

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Reyfox wrote on 3/24/2021, 6:07 AM

You can drag any of the Video FX from the Vegas Color folder to the track header and adjust/grade to your liking. AFAIK, the color grading panel only works with a clip.

Or, you can nest as suggested by @Grazie

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diverG wrote on 3/24/2021, 7:03 AM

Save your first color grade as a LUT. Then apply LUT to the timeline. Name your LUT carefully it may only be requred for 1 named project.

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Grazie wrote on 3/24/2021, 7:05 AM

@Roger Bansemer Here's a thought use a Nested Timeline and then use Alt+G on the Nest.

Grazie wrote on 3/24/2021, 7:07 AM

Save your first color grade as a LUT. Then apply LUT to the timeline. Name your LUT carefully it may only be requred for 1 named project.


@diverG - Ooooo, I like that!

Roger Bansemer wrote on 3/24/2021, 8:18 AM

Thanks for the answers. Does seem strange that they didn't give all those great controls the ability to just be applied on the timeline level. I'll bet it shows up on the next version.

michael-harrison wrote on 3/24/2021, 9:54 AM

@Roger Bansemer Depending on your grading workflow you can also grade one clip, copy the clip and paste the attributes on the rest of the clips. Might not work if you do your grading after applying other fx.

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Grazie wrote on 3/24/2021, 10:41 AM

@Roger Bansemer - Ok, I’ll bite. Apart from seeming strange, why would you want it on the Track?

bob-c wrote on 3/24/2021, 10:48 AM

Once you do the Color Grade on an event, return to the timeline view, open the fx on the event and save the Color Grade as a preset. Remove the Color Grade effect (or uncheck the effect) from the event so it won't be applied twice. Now you can go into Track fx, select Color Grade and add your saved preset (you can also add the Color Grade in the Project Media by adding it as a Media fx to a file).

michael-harrison wrote on 3/24/2021, 10:57 AM

@Grazie if you need to make a number of cuts on the same file or have a lot of files captured by the same camera over a long period, it can be a lot easier to apply "global" fixes at the track level. In other words, same reason you might apply any fx to the track.

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Grazie wrote on 3/24/2021, 11:18 AM

@Grazie if you need to make a number of cuts on the same file or have a lot of files captured by the same camera over a long period, it can be a lot easier to apply "global" fixes at the track level. In other words, same reason you might apply any fx to the track.

Yes, I know, been using VP since VP3. I wanted to hear from @Roger Bansemer exactly what he wanted to do. He does long form work.

Musicvid wrote on 3/24/2021, 11:42 AM

Copy and Paste Event Attributes is convenient enough for me.

Reyfox wrote on 3/24/2021, 2:59 PM

In Vegas, there is always more than one way to "color" a cat.... gotta love it!

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Roger Bansemer wrote on 3/25/2021, 8:12 AM

Copy and Paste Event Attributes is convenient enough for me.

Copy and Paste Event Attributes is convenient enough for me.


That's what I was thinking too. Still seems odd they don't have this on the track level.

J-Toresen wrote on 3/25/2021, 8:58 AM

@Roger Bansemer

Take a look at

Graide Color Curves
https://www.semw-software.com/en/colorcurves/

And  Graide Color Match
https://www.semw-software.com/en/colormatch/

These plug-ins are not free, but you can apply them as an Event FX, Track FX, Media FX and as a Video Output FX. I have not tested these tools myself.

Watch the tutorials on the web-site, and on YouTube.

Jøran Toresen

Grazie wrote on 3/25/2021, 10:17 AM

Still seems odd they don't have this on the track level.

Yah see Gents, he ain’t having it! Go on Roger, keep telling them 🤣.

Reyfox wrote on 3/25/2021, 10:47 AM

Maybe VP19 it will be track level?

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john-murphy wrote on 3/26/2021, 12:57 AM

Roger, on an entirely different matter. My mother and I enjoy watching your painting show on PBS!

John M.

Roger Bansemer wrote on 3/26/2021, 7:40 AM

Roger, on an entirely different matter. My mother and I enjoy watching your painting show on PBS!

John M.


Thanks John. Editing all those programs (130 of them) has been quite a job but we've been very lucky to be on the air consistently for about 12 years now. Been taking a break since the virus though.

AVsupport wrote on 3/26/2021, 4:52 PM

for quick jobs I use https://newbluefx.com/products/filters/colorfast/ on the track, works a treat, especially for quick gamma correction. I find the VP grading tools unintuitive and slow to use

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