color grading tutorial - my questions about watching this tutorial

marcinzm wrote on 2/18/2021, 1:24 PM

Hello,

I watched this tutorial about color grading:

1) If I record footage on the same room during daylight and I use the same camera, then when I correct colors based on color chart, can I export LUT with these settings and I use it every time when I will be recording different video but in the same room, with same camera and during daylight? Can this LUT file be my often used preset for this specified camera? Or maybe I should do the same color correction every time when I will be recording?

2) Is it possible to do such color grading when I don`t use a color chart? What should I do when I forget to use color chart before recording?

3) Can the ad 1) LUT file be my often used color grading preset for this specified camera when I will be recording in the different conditions (outside and inside) and in different seasons (summer and winter time)?

 

Regards

Marcin

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I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

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Comments

Musicvid wrote on 2/18/2021, 2:04 PM

No, daylight color temperature varies radically throughout the day, seasons, and cloud conditions. Like 4000° - 9000° K!

Auto White Balance.

WRT the video tutorial, that is about correcting a chip chart; has nothing to do with grading that I can see ...

RogerS wrote on 2/18/2021, 6:38 PM

Caveat: I didn't watch the video.

You could make a generic correction for your camera under daylight (try outside on a day with a cloudless sky) using a quality chart. Take care to white balance your camera accurately.
Assuming indoors is daylight lit without any color casts, the thing you need to do is make the white balance match daylight. A good chart or simple white balance card will help you set a proper custom white balance. So white balance in camera, shoot the card for reference in post and then apply your custom correction LUT and it should work without needing a chart every time you shoot.

Here is a comparative review of white balance cards vs a $1000+ individually measured reference.

marcinzm wrote on 2/20/2021, 12:00 AM

Thank you all for your replies.

What is your most recommended White Balance plugin?
1) Do you recommend this built-in White Balance plugin or maybe Ignite White Balance is better one or maybe some other third-party White Balance plugin is better than these 2 mentoned by me previously.

2) When I shoot wedding in a church and wedding party in the restaurant which takes 9 hours i.e. from 5pm till 1 am. How often I should record a color chart?

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If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

RogerS wrote on 2/20/2021, 3:20 AM

I usually only use white balance Fx.
If there's a cast in only highlights or shadows, color curves or 3 way color corrector can help, too.

I don't think you need to keep recording a chart for color, but if there are big changes in lighting, you should change the camera's white balance setting. You might save some WB presets if your camera supports it, for each of the main lighting situations you are in (i.e. white balance under the different lighting and save it) but you have to remember which one is which. Otherwise pick a value in the middle, take care not to overexpose as you'll need to correct color in post, and shoot the white balance card in each scene as a reference if you have time. If you don't have time there are menus, gray suits, white tablecloths, etc. that at least provide some visual reference for fixing it later in Vegas.

Musicvid wrote on 2/20/2021, 4:42 PM

What is your most recommended White Balance plugin?

The one inside your camera. Everything else is destructive.