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xberk wrote on 2/18/2017, 12:28 PM

I'm still using my Lenovo Y580 that's 4 years old. It's an i7 .. works fine with HD proxy files or SD footage. If I had to replace it tomorrow, I'd go for a Windows Surface Pro.

Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

Red Prince wrote on 2/18/2017, 1:13 PM

I’m using the MSI GT72s 6QE Dominator Pro G.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

OldSmoke wrote on 2/18/2017, 2:37 PM

As an owner of a Surface Pro 3 with an i7 I can't recommend it for video editing at all. Maybe SD footage but certainly not higher grade HD like XAVCS or better.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

xberk wrote on 2/18/2017, 3:26 PM

So OldSmoke .. what would you recommend these days for a laptop?

Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

OldSmoke wrote on 2/18/2017, 4:27 PM

It depends on what you are editing but it won't be a budget laptop. Minimum a 4 core 8 threads with a dedicated AMD GPU and 32GB of RAM for 1080 60p editing.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Musicvid wrote on 2/18/2017, 5:14 PM

Get the biggest high res screen you can afford.

MikeyDH wrote on 2/18/2017, 7:41 PM

Thanks for the input. As with most things these days there are more questions than answers. I just need to get the proper footing before I make what looks to be a pricey decision.

Musicvid wrote on 2/18/2017, 8:20 PM

Mikey, will you be editing and rendering 4K?

If it's vanilla 1080, you won't need all the horsepower.

MikeyDH wrote on 2/18/2017, 8:32 PM

Yes, I have been shooting with a Panasonic GH4 in 4K and rendering to 1080. It is a bit of a bear on my system now which is getting some age. I was thinking of a laptop for awhile for space and convenience and using my system now for the storage and photo editing RAW images..

Red Prince wrote on 2/18/2017, 8:52 PM

My laptop, mentioned early on and apparently completely ignored by everyone here, works great, and while 4K would be too cold for it (4K = 4 Kelvin = -269.15°C = -452.5°F), it works flawlessly with 4k.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

MikeyDH wrote on 2/18/2017, 8:59 PM

I checked it out Red Prince. It is a top end machine for sure. However, it looks like it is geared more toward gaming with a lot of bells and whistles in the price that might not be needed.

MikeyDH wrote on 2/18/2017, 10:52 PM

Here is one I am looking at within my price range that appears to have everything I might need to accomplish my tasks. Any input on this would be appreciated. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1304024-REG/asus_gl753vd_ds71_17_3_republic_of_gamers.html

Red Prince wrote on 2/19/2017, 10:28 AM

However, it looks like it is geared more toward gaming with a lot of bells and whistles in the price that might not be needed.

That’s why I got it. I don’t play games, but in my experience gaming computers are the best for video editing.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

MikeyDH wrote on 2/19/2017, 11:29 AM

I understand that, but it is essentially a desktop in laptop form from what I reviewed.

OldSmoke wrote on 2/19/2017, 11:40 AM

I understand that, but it is essentially a desktop in laptop form from what I reviewed.


That's the only way to do it and yet, it will never be as powerful as a desktop. As for your selection, I would rather look into a model with an AMD card.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Red Prince wrote on 2/19/2017, 12:27 PM

I would rather look into a model with an AMD card.

I wouldn’t. One of the reasons I got my laptop was it has an excellent Nvidia card. I only owned one computer with an AMD card, but that was enough for me to make sure never to get an AMD card.

Same for the microprocessor, after having an AMD one, I will never buy a computer with anything but a genuine Intel processor.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

OldSmoke wrote on 2/19/2017, 12:44 PM

The reason you would want an AMD card is that at the moment, OpenCL is much better supported under AMD vs Nvidia which makes an AMD card more suitable for Vegas.

I used to be Nvidia only guy but due to their limitations under Vegas I changed to AMD and I am glad I did.

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Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Red Prince wrote on 2/19/2017, 2:05 PM

To each his own, I guess. I’m perfectly happy with my Nvidia OpenCL performance.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

MikeyDH wrote on 2/19/2017, 2:27 PM

I do appreciate all of the comments. I have a 9 year old desktop that has been updated and modified over the years. Just about everything has been changed, but the way this technology moves along it is impossible to just go and get the flavor of the day and see if it is what we have been hoping for. What works for some just isn't enough or don't work for others. I keep looking at the specs and they all look the same except for the brand names. You would think that it all works. Why it shouldn't or don't I'll never know.

jOn wrote on 2/19/2017, 3:10 PM

My choice was Dell precision i7 M4600 mobile workstation with AMD FirePro vcard. You can get refurbished for 500€..

OldSmoke wrote on 3/7/2017, 6:05 PM

Did some testing today with my Surface Pro 3. I have two Dell Ultrasharp 27" 2560x1440 connected to my Surface and I installed SVP13 again just for kicks. I converted some of my XAVC-S footage to XDCAM, that is the best implemented codec in SVP in my opinion. The best the Surface can handle is XDCAM 1280x720 29.97p. I tried 59.94p as well as 1920x1080 29.97p and both may pass for some users but not for me. However, once you drop some FX and transition on these two formats the fps goes down to half. I doubt single or dual monitor makes much of a difference. XDCAM 1280x720 29.97p which is MPEG2 flavor does ok and even I could use it provided I convert the project media to that proxy format.

Note: This is all for preview set to Best/Full.

I do love my Surface Pro 3 for all my office work; it's light, battery live is good (not great), I can use it as a tablet too and when docked, it can drive my two monitors and if I wanted a 3rd monitor or its own display to watch TV.

Later this year I may change to a Surface Book or wait for the new model to come out; let's see what that can do.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

MikeyDH wrote on 3/7/2017, 6:18 PM

I'm still at indecision. I've been reading a lot and as usual am amazed at all the choices good, bad, or indifferent. Information overload.

Video_flaneur wrote on 3/7/2017, 6:37 PM

Here is a review from a few days ago called The Best Laptops for 4K editing in 2017. However it is not specific to Vegas and I don't know whether the respective graphics cards play nicely with Vegas.

Laptop: Surface Pro 6: Windows 11 Pro Version 23H2, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8650U CPU @ 1.90GHz   2.11 GHzIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-8650U CPU @ 1.90GHz   2.11 GHz; 16GB RAM, 1TB internal SSD
2 external monitors, 5TB external drive, wireless keyboard and mouse

(planning to upgrade to a more powerful graphics laptop when cashflows allow)

Vegas Pro 22 (Build 239); Vegasaur Toolkit 4.0.1; ProDad Mercall v.4; HitFilm Pro Version 2021.1; Acid Pro 11; Sound Forge Pro 18;

CogDiv wrote on 3/7/2017, 6:44 PM

Tried Certified Refurbished from Dell Outlet?

Alienware 17R4
$1,509.00

2 in stock

Certified Refurbished

Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700HQ Processor (Quad Core, up to 3.50 GHz, 6M Cache, 45W)

Windows 10 Home 64bit English

1 TB 2.5-Inch SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)

256GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive

32GB DDR4 Non-ECC SDRAM 2400MHz (2x16GB)

17.3 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display with Tobii IR Eye-tracking

AMD Radeon RX470M 8GB

1 Year Premium Support- Onsite Support After Remote Diagnosis and Software Support Warranty

Dell Outlet Alienware 17R4 Laptop