HOW CAN I RENDER FASTER

Colin-Riley wrote on 12/9/2018, 2:19 PM

For Christmas, I am getting a new PC and I'm looking for a computer that can render videos faster than my current one.

What should I look for in a new PC CPU, Ram, etc to get videos to render faster? Also, my budget is around $600-$850.

 

Below are the specs of my current computer:

Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i5 4440 @ 3.10GHz    56 °C
    Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 088DT1 (CPU 1)    51 °C
Graphics
    DELL E2214H (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Dell)
Storage
    931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA )    39 °C
Optical Drives
    HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GHB0N
Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 12/9/2018, 2:40 PM

You may be sorry you asked. These guys love to spread fertilizer...

I would start with the render benchmarks at tomshardware, not the gaming benchmarks.

Colin-Riley wrote on 12/9/2018, 2:44 PM

You may be sorry you asked. These guys love to spread fertilizer...

I'm afraid I don't understand.

Musicvid wrote on 12/9/2018, 2:49 PM

You will once you've stepped in it. The American colloquialism is BS.

But still worth listening to.

;?)

fr0sty wrote on 12/9/2018, 2:53 PM

He's referring to the fact that many people have their own opinions about what is the best Vegas hardware config. I personally would go for the more bang for the buck option of an AMD Ryzen/Threadripper series CPU and NVidia RTX/GTX 20 series GPU, but an AMD GPU may be the better option for Vegas.

If you have the budget, a top-shelf Intel CPU would be the better option. AMD gets you close for (as little as) half the cost.

RAM-wise, I have 64GB, no performance difference in Vegas vs. 32, but there is definitely one in After Effects.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

j-v wrote on 12/9/2018, 3:13 PM

For Christmas, I am getting a new PC and I'm looking for a computer that can render videos faster than my current one.

What should I look for in a new PC CPU, Ram, etc to get videos to render faster?

I'm afraid you will come not so far as you maybe want with the
generalities of the previous comments.
Maybe it is better for you to tell us first some specifications of the probable point you are now with rendering(?), video(?)

Which program and build, what hardware, CPU,GPU a.s.o.
Look here to give the right information.

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Colin-Riley wrote on 12/9/2018, 7:16 PM

For Christmas, I am getting a new PC and I'm looking for a computer that can render videos faster than my current one.

What should I look for in a new PC CPU, Ram, etc to get videos to render faster?

I'm afraid you will come not so far as you maybe want with the
generalities of the previous comments.
Maybe it is better for you to tell us first some specifications of the probable point you are now with rendering(?), video(?)

Which program and build, what hardware, CPU,GPU a.s.o.
Look here to give the right information.

I am using Vegas Pro 16 and Movie Studio Platinum build 14.

 

Below are the specs of my current computer:

Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i5 4440 @ 3.10GHz    56 °C
    Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 088DT1 (CPU 1)    51 °C
Graphics
    DELL E2214H (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Dell)
Storage
    931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA )    39 °C
Optical Drives
    HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GHB0N
Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

Musicvid wrote on 12/9/2018, 8:03 PM

Well, that was easy. Double everything.

My advice: if you are looking for an editing laptop, check out the new Dell XPS, which has a great looking screen.

Colin-Riley wrote on 12/9/2018, 9:18 PM

Well, that was easy. Double everything.

My advice: if you are looking for an editing laptop, check out the new Dell XPS, which has a great looking screen.

How would I double everything exactly?

NickHope wrote on 12/9/2018, 10:09 PM

Colin, do you want to get a laptop or desktop?

What is the budget?

What format do you want to render and what do you do with the rendered files?

Colin-Riley wrote on 12/9/2018, 10:47 PM

I am wanting to get a desktop, and my budget is around $600-$850.

 

I like to render all of my videos in MainConcept AVC/ACC in Internet HD 1080p, and occasionally I'll tweak the settings and render a video in MainConcept AVC/ACC in Internet HD 4k.

NickHope wrote on 12/10/2018, 12:43 AM

For big speed increases you want hardware encoding, using VCE (AMD) or NVENC (NVIDIA) or QVC (Intel) or CUDA (NVIDIA) rather than CPU-only. Unfortunately the quality of NVENC and QVC AVC renders may be questionable (opinions on this vary greatly and I can't test it myself).

This current thread shows great results from VCE 4.0, but the AMD Vega card necessary for that would be over your budget. I doubt (but have no real evidence) that earlier implementations of VCE are as good.

If you like to use MainConcept AVC/AAC then you could look for a used Nvidia GTX 580 card on eBay etc. and set Encode Mode to CUDA in your render template. This would give you a big speed increase for little outlay. You would need to access the Vegas internal preferences first (hold SHIFT while clicking "Preferences") and set "Enable Legacy... Render Plugins" to TRUE (presumably you have already done that if you are using MainConcept AVC/AAC in VP16), and also check "Allow legacy GPU rendering" in the General Preferences. Don't skimp on power supply requirements. More info in section 2 of this post.

A few hours ago I would have said you could try an old AMD HD6970 card or similar, for legacy encoding with OpenCL, but I just tested that and the result was terrible with 1-pass setting.

For a modest speed increase you could try CPU-only x264 rendering using the RenderPlus script in Happy Otter Scripts. That plugin also allows you to access hardware encoding if you have supported hardware.

Sorry I can't give you precise system specs to fit your budget. My knowledge of the speed/quality of current hardware rendering methods is insufficient, especially towards the budget end.