How to :Border? shadow?

FayFen wrote on 2/17/2019, 1:32 AM

Hi, I'm exploring VMS16 trial, look at this set up. I want to add white border or shadow to the masked video.

I look in the FX list but nothing of that kind.

So how will you emphasize or different the masked video from the background in VMS16 so the image will not be flat?

Thank you.

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EricLNZ wrote on 2/17/2019, 3:31 AM

You should have Vegas Border FX.

EricLNZ wrote on 2/17/2019, 4:13 AM

@FayFen And if you find your border applies itself to the whole image and not your centre image try changing its order in the FX box.

3POINT wrote on 2/17/2019, 4:21 AM

Or use the shadow/glow option of the trackmotion .

Marco. wrote on 2/17/2019, 4:24 AM

What I see from FayFen's screenshot he made a mask composition to apply a separate mask layer to two video layers. In this case the Border FX would not work around the mask (not sure but I think the TrackMotion tweaks neither). It would need something like "Layer Dimensionality" which is available in Vegas Pro only. Something similar could be done in Movie Studio by applying bump mapping as Track FX to the mask layer.

Without having a more precise description about how the mask is made it's hard to tell which process could work to apply a border/shadow.

FayFen wrote on 2/17/2019, 6:13 AM

Thank you,

Frankly Marco I don't know what's I'm doing... I'm experimenting. I have this maske.vf one of you, on the forum, made for me many months ago when I struggle to see how VMS can mask thru a bmp/jpg image. Then I learned that it can be done only on full track based and not by single event base, unlike cookie cutter (which could make sense for option to load there an image).

** I see now that cookie cutter isn't also working OK. I have this 2minute long video, I split it into 3 events and trim them but If I apply cookie cuter to one it show on all. I'm lost.

Vegas border isn't working here as it border the source video but not border the mask.

I'm looking for something like this

Marco. wrote on 2/17/2019, 6:41 AM

As mentioned above - Bump mapping is one possible way to go.

Musicvid wrote on 2/17/2019, 12:31 PM

Photoshop has great border effects, and many great free frame packs. For custom framing of any source, I will render a .png image sequence, and write a Photoshop Action (basically a batch macro) to finish the frame job. (Or, you could leave that last bit to your jealous ex).

Believe me, actually writing the Action is only a trip to hell and back the first time (and the second, if you're like me).

Marco. wrote on 2/17/2019, 2:19 PM

I revised using the shadow option of Parent Animation (instead of Track Motion) of this kind of compositing. This is what I get in Movie Studio:

3POINT wrote on 2/17/2019, 2:50 PM

You mean Parent Motion, Marco.

Marco. wrote on 2/17/2019, 4:17 PM

You are right, I mixed the German version.

FayFen wrote on 2/17/2019, 11:35 PM

Thank you Marco. is it possible you zip the vf file for me to look that up?

Thank you

*** I think I found it, but again it work for the full track, so if I need 10 of such masks in my project I'll need more than 30 tracks just to do them, unless I want all with the same "look" and motion...

hmmm, there is good side for that and bad side...

Marco. wrote on 2/18/2019, 3:56 AM

You don't need additional tracks if you want to add additional masks at different times in your timeline. Just feed the given three compositing tracks and use keyframing to individually adjust the look and motion.

3POINT wrote on 2/18/2019, 5:21 AM

Exactly:

FayFen wrote on 2/18/2019, 6:14 AM

You don't need additional tracks if you want to add additional masks at different times in your timeline. Just feed the given three compositing tracks and use keyframing to individually adjust the look and motion.

Marco , 3Point, that's what I understand , all masks/events on this same track will have same glow and shadow. I can't keyframe difrent motion/shadow/glow to difrent clips/events.

3point, you got me confused as I see you have the mask above the video I thought it should be below....

I see this whole process is un-intuative at all. To have one masked video over another masked video, like I show in my screenshot can be a nightmare..

Still thank you for taking the time so show me.

 

Marco. wrote on 2/18/2019, 6:17 AM

"I can't keyframe difrent motion/shadow/glow to difrent clips/events."

Yes, you can keyframe different motion/shadow/glow to differenct clips. That's one reason the Track/Parent Motion keyframes are meant for. It's only a matter of how you use and set the keyframe modes.

This project structure with 3 tracks and keyframed Parent Motion settings was used to output this video. See the position and color change of the second mask in the middle:

"3point, you got me confused as I see you have the mask above the video I thought it should be below...."

It doesn't matter wether the mask is on the top or the second track because both tracks are combined by a multiplication process.