Hi, no, it's not the source. I get this effect on every tape I try (VHS, Betacam SP, Umatic, etc).

In order to do this properly, you need to match your project to your source. That means Resolution, Interlacing, PAR, and Frame Rate. Then render Magix AVC Progressive the same resolution as your source.

If on the other hand, you will want to Upscale your video, you will do differently, which is to follow the Help Instructions precisely for Smart Deinterlace and Upscale.

The differences between the two procedures need better documentation and clarification; this has been reported to the development staff. Either way, you may notice slight edge combing artifacts.

Two different purposes, two entirely different procedures. Best of luck.

Hi, thanks- I've tried setting the project and render settings to match the source, and the result is worse- interlaced video with combed interlace lines. I am, actually, trying to upscale the video and convert it to progressive.

@Pea-Hicks Hi, you could share a short file on Google Drive? i'm sure others will try it out n see .

I tried setting the project settings to match the source, and the Magix AVC Progressive render settings also to match the source, and the jagged edges remain,

@Pea-Hicks Hi, you could share a short file on Google Drive? i'm sure others will try it out n see .

Hi, do you mean the original capture avi?

For what it's worth, I'm using the legacy Vegas Capture Video. I've just found it to be the most intuitive video capture app for me. I don't think this is the culprit, but let me know if it might be.

OK here's a short avi of a raw capture:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rl8qzeo0zjvn0k5/countdown%20001.avi?dl=1

here's a screenshot of the avi playing:

and here's a screenshot of a typical render out of Vegas (using all the settings I outlined in my original post- the jaggies appear no matter what combination of settings I try to use).

(fyi the pixel aspect ratio of raw capture and screenshots is .9091, which ultimately I want to convert to square for the final render.)

For what it's worth, I'm using the legacy Vegas Capture Video. I've just found it to be the most intuitive video capture app for me. I don't think this is the culprit, but let me know if it might be.

Yes, it's pretty basic technology. Handbrake Decomb has better results, but like I said, expect imperfect results from any method. You can take that for fact.

You can see my results for the Smart Deinterlace and Upscale method in my Signature by clicking below. It's my DVCAM Highlight Reel from 2000-2010 upscaled to 720p.

Those artifacts are from the source video being interlaced, which is common of all analog video from the SD era. You need to de-interlace it to get rid of that. Set the field order to progressive in project settings and turn on smart adaptive GPU de-interlacing.

Those artifacts are from the source video being interlaced, which is common of all analog video from the SD era. You need to de-interlace it to get rid of that. Set the field order to progressive in project settings and turn on smart adaptive GPU de-interlacing.

Hi, I’ve done all of those things (see my original post). The problem remains no matter what project/render settings I use.

For what it's worth, I'm using the legacy Vegas Capture Video. I've just found it to be the most intuitive video capture app for me. I don't think this is the culprit, but let me know if it might be.

Yes, it's pretty basic technology. Handbrake Decomb has better results, but like I said, expect imperfect results from any method. You can take that for fact.

You can see my results for the Smart Deinterlace and Upscale method in my Signature by clicking below. It's my DVCAM Highlight Reel from 2000-2010 upscaled to 720p.

 

Can you point me directly to the “Smart Deinterlace and Upscale method” you’re referring to?

Smart deinterlacing can be enabled in project settings. Upscale is an effect you add to the video. Once you add it, you must drag it before "event pan/crop" in your effects chain for it to activate (at the top of the effects window when you add it). Using the smooth upscale mode produces the fastest results, the sharp modes take forever to process and don't always yield better results. The new upscaler uses artificial intelligence to help it better draw the pixels, it knows what a human is, a tree, etc... and can use that info to aid it when redrawing the pixels.

Smart deinterlacing can be enabled in project settings. Upscale is an effect you add to the video. Once you add it, you must drag it before "event pan/crop" in your effects chain for it to activate (at the top of the effects window when you add it). Using the smooth upscale mode produces the fastest results, the sharp modes take forever to process and don't always yield better results. The new upscaler uses artificial intelligence to help it better draw the pixels, it knows what a human is, a tree, etc... and can use that info to aid it when redrawing the pixels.

OK, so yeah- as per my original post, I always have "Smart Adaptive (GPU Only)" selected in the project settings. As for the "Smart Upscale" effect, I know I've tried it before with no perceivable effect, but I'll experiment with it again.

OK, I tried the smart upscale plugin, and it made no difference. yes, i did put it before pan/crop.

I just realized that Vegas 19 has a new upscale plugin. I'm using Vegas 18. Maybe time for me to upgrade, i guess, but hopefully there's a way I can do this without spending more money...

No, upgrades to new versions cost. Not very much (I think it's under $200), but they do cost. VEGAS 20 is on the verge of releasing, and there's a deal going now where if you buy 19, you get 20 also.

OK stop press, I think I may have found a workaround, with a couple caveats. Topaz Video Enhance AI seems to do the trick, BUT... it takes FOREVER to render, and it renders without audio. It also only seems to render at a .9091 pixel aspect... so I have to take the Topaz render (1080p), bring it into Vegas, set the pixel aspect to square in the media properties, drop in the audio from the raw capture, and then render normally. I'll post an example here shortly. I'll try out Vegas 19 and see if the improved upscale plugin give similar results to Topaz, and if it does, without a huge render time, that'll be reason enough for me to spend the $$$ I guess.

Don't expect superior or even equal results without the render time, but expect similar, without the need to leave VEGAS.

OK, here's an example using Topaz as outline above. This is basically the type of result I was looking for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbca779s5loqvu1/MTRP%20Overview%20-%20Barbara%20Nadkins.mp4?dl=1

I've just bought the Vegas 19/20 upgrade, so I'll play around with that and hopefully I can get a similar result with less hassle.

welp... just upgraded to Vegas 19 and... the program won't even start. Neither will Sound Forge 15. I give up!

I did comprehensive testing of VP19 Smart Deinterlace and Upscale vs. Topaz back in May. I was not allowed to publish the results here because I used a short sample of Star Wars footage in my investigation, which I believed passed muster for educational fair use.

However, I can share the outcome.

• Vegas 19 has slightly better Spatial (still frame) detail.
• Topaz has slightly better Temporal (motion) detail.
• Topaz took 4x longer to do its job than Vegas did (with light Unsharp Mask preceding Upscale, but without the AI Sharpen Model).
• For that reason, I concluded that Vegas is best for my work; it is relatively "less slow" than Topaz, by a country mile.
• Your uploaded video looks pretty good. There is a tendency to overprocess and oversharpen when using Topaz, because the lenses and sensors and tape heads in those days were shitty.