Problem with Video Editing in VEGAS PRO

J.S wrote on 1/2/2022, 7:31 PM

Hello. I have installed the trial version of Vegas Pro, and when I try to edit some videos, the preview and the rendered version of the clips is destroyed. I have posted pictures below of the original clip and how it becomes afterwards. I have tried it with multiple clips and it's always the same. Does anyone know what the problem is and what I can do about it ? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 1/2/2022, 8:04 PM

Your video appears to be variable frame rate.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

J.S wrote on 1/2/2022, 8:20 PM

Your video appears to be variable frame rate.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Thank you very much for your answer! I am kinda new to Vegas, so I am not sure what that means ... What does it mean my video being in variable frame rate ? Is this why my videos clips crush when i put the onto VEGAS ? If so what can I do about it. Thank you again

EricLNZ wrote on 1/2/2022, 9:24 PM

You need to post the required info for anyone to be able to start to help you. Open the link @Musicvid gave you and follow the instructions.

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 1:20 AM

You need to post the required info for anyone to be able to start to help you. Open the link @Musicvid gave you and follow the instructions.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Julian\Downloads\iniesta busquets.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 5.93 MiB
Duration                                 : 18 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 2 766 kb/s

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 18 s 0 ms
Bit rate                                 : 2 624 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.025
Stream size                              : 5.63 MiB (95%)
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 18 s 0 ms
Source duration                          : 17 s 972 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Nominal bit rate                         : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 22.05 kHz
Frame rate                               : 21.533 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Source stream size                       : 281 KiB (5%)
Language                                 : Spanish
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
mdhd_Duration                            : 18000

General
  Name: iniesta busquets.mp4
  Folder: C:\Users\Julian\Downloads
  Type: AVC
  Size: 6.08 MB (6,223,065 bytes)
  Created: Thursday, December 30, 2021, 10:07:52 PM
  Modified: Thursday, December 30, 2021, 10:07:55 PM
  Accessed: Monday, January 3, 2022, 9:14:38 AM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:18.000, 50.000 fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC
  Audio: 00:00:17.876, 22,050 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 9

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 19.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

Thank you for your reply! @EricLNZ . Above is what I have found ...

Grazie wrote on 1/3/2022, 1:48 AM

Your video appears to be variable frame rate.

@Musicvid - I noted this amongst the MediaInfo:

Frame rate mode  : Constant

Is this relevant? Above my pay grade.

harry-worth wrote on 1/3/2022, 2:35 AM

Your preview setting is set to Auto, change it to Best (Full) so that is will be much clearer

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 2:52 AM

Your video appears to be variable frame rate.

@Musicvid - I noted this amongst the MediaInfo:

Frame rate mode  : Constant

Is this relevant? Above my pay grade.

Thanks for your reply!

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 2:53 AM

Your preview setting is set to Auto, change it to Best (Full) so that is will be much clearer

Thank you very much for your willingness to help! I have tried changing that as well but unfortunately the problem remains ...

 

EricLNZ wrote on 1/3/2022, 2:55 AM

Your video appears to be variable frame rate.

@Musicvid - I noted this amongst the MediaInfo:

Frame rate mode  : Constant

Is this relevant? Above my pay grade.

@Grazie The framerate is 50fps constant so variable framerate isn't an issue here.

Grazie wrote on 1/3/2022, 3:27 AM

@EricLNZ - Really? I don’t understand the apparent contradiction. Always willing to the difference. Please explain.

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 3:30 AM

Thank you to everyone for your willingness to help, it is much appreciated! Does anyone know if I can contact any official from the VEGAS team ? I have tried to reach the live-chat assistant, but this option was only available once, and I couldn't find it since.

walter-i. wrote on 1/3/2022, 3:40 AM

Does anyone know if I can contact any official from the VEGAS team ? I have tried to reach the live-chat assistant, but this option was only available once, and I couldn't find it since.

@J.S
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/ask-support-advice--120281/

It seems to me that this is more of a graphics driver issue - have you checked that your drivers are up to date in Vegas Pro using "Help / Check for driver updates"?
Post a screenshot of the display in Vegas Pro here.

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 3:50 AM

Does anyone know if I can contact any official from the VEGAS team ? I have tried to reach the live-chat assistant, but this option was only available once, and I couldn't find it since.

@J.S
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/ask-support-advice--120281/

It seems to me that this is more of a graphics driver issue - have you checked that your drivers are up to date in Vegas Pro using "Help / Check for driver updates"?
Post a screenshot of the display in Vegas Pro here.

Thanks for your reply! Here is a screenshot of this

Reyfox wrote on 1/3/2022, 4:12 AM

@J.S is it possible to upload a sample of the footage you are editing to the cloud? Not one that has gone through any editor.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.2

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 4:25 AM

@J.S is it possible to upload a sample of the footage you are editing to the cloud? Not one that has gone through any editor.

I have uploaded the clip above. Is that what you mean ? Thanks for the help!

 

Reyfox wrote on 1/3/2022, 4:32 AM

@J.S not something uploaded here, but to the cloud. When uploaded here, it's changed, like when you upload to Youtube or Facebook.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.2

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Former user wrote on 1/3/2022, 4:37 AM

@J.S Hi, no he meant put it in a zipped folder, go to Google Drive, drag the folder into there, right click 'Get Link' to copy the link to that folder & post the link on here, or use Dropbox, (sorry don't know that program)

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 5:50 AM

@Reyfox @Former user I have uploaded it on wetransfer -> https://we.tl/t-RgFzo5G3QL . Is that ok ? Thanks guys.

fr0sty wrote on 1/3/2022, 5:53 AM

One thing that stands out to me, the bitrate of the source video is really low. Bitrate determines the quality. That, however, should not be causing this.

Here's something you can try. Go to Options, click preferences, and in the "File I/O" tab, check "use legacy AVC decoder". See if that helps. If it does, only use that setting for this particular project, or any time you have an issue playing back media, as it breaks compatibility with certain types of video, and slows down playback performance. You only want to leave that checked temporarily just to get this project finished.

If that doesn't help, see if turning off hardware decoding (the top option) in the file I/O tab helps. Again, only do this temporarily, as it slows performance. VEGAS has lots of tricks it can use to speed up performance, but once in a while certain kinds of media files will cause issues with those features, so these options are there to let you turn that stuff off so you can get your project finished... but you want them on as often as possible.

If that too fails, try going into the video tab and disabling GPU acceleration. Same as above, only use that temporarily until your project is finished.

We'll continue to work with you until we run out of ideas, if that happens, we'll point you to where you can file a support ticket and get official support, but helping others with their VEGAS issues is one of the primary reasons we hang around here, so we're here to help as much as we can. That's one of the biggest benefits of using VEGAS, the community is full of folks willing to help who are experts at the software.

Last changed by fr0sty on 1/3/2022, 5:58 AM, changed a total of 4 times.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

J.S wrote on 1/3/2022, 6:12 AM

One thing that stands out to me, the bitrate of the source video is really low. Bitrate determines the quality. That, however, should not be causing this.

Here's something you can try. Go to Options, click preferences, and in the "File I/O" tab, check "use legacy AVC decoder". See if that helps. If it does, only use that setting for this particular project, or any time you have an issue playing back media, as it breaks compatibility with certain types of video, and slows down playback performance. You only want to leave that checked temporarily just to get this project finished.

If that doesn't help, see if turning off hardware decoding (the top option) in the file I/O tab helps. Again, only do this temporarily, as it slows performance. VEGAS has lots of tricks it can use to speed up performance, but once in a while certain kinds of media files will cause issues with those features, so these options are there to let you turn that stuff off so you can get your project finished... but you want them on as often as possible.

If that too fails, try going into the video tab and disabling GPU acceleration. Same as above, only use that temporarily until your project is finished.

We'll continue to work with you until we run out of ideas, if that happens, we'll point you to where you can file a support ticket and get official support, but helping others with their VEGAS issues is one of the primary reasons we hang around here, so we're here to help as much as we can. That's one of the biggest benefits of using VEGAS, the community is full of folks willing to help who are experts at the software.

Thanks appreciate the help enormously. I have tried all of the suggestions you gave me but unfortunately the problem still persists.

fr0sty wrote on 1/3/2022, 6:23 AM

OK, does this issue only happen with this media file, or does it do this on everything you put on the timeline?

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

fr0sty wrote on 1/3/2022, 6:25 AM

One thing you can try is to download a free program called Handbrake, and run this file through it. Encode it into a new file. Import that new file into VEGAS, and that should resolve your issue. The media is possibly corrupted, but re-encoding it may fix that.

https://handbrake.fr/

Last changed by fr0sty on 1/3/2022, 6:26 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Former user wrote on 1/3/2022, 6:28 AM

@J.S Sorry it seems to work fine for me, what are you trying to do when you say 'when I try to edit some videos, the preview and the rendered version of the clips is destroyed' ?

 

 

Former user wrote on 1/3/2022, 6:32 AM

 

Thank you very much for your willingness to help! I have tried changing that as well but unfortunately the problem remains ...

 

@J.S This is a different clip?

So 'when I try to edit some videos' means it does this to other imported media?

Do some imported media's work ok & some others don't work ok?