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RogerS wrote on 5/13/2020, 4:07 AM

(it's in Spanish)
Title is "Why is Filmora better than Vegas?"

rock-c wrote on 5/13/2020, 4:19 AM

(it's in Spanish)
Title is "Why is Filmora better than Vegas?"

yes.

adimatis wrote on 5/13/2020, 4:48 AM

What is hard to understand? :)

Of course Filmora is better than Vegas and probably than most other professional editors because it uses various graphic templates and elements that are drag-and-drop as well as very simple adjustments, and so it provides instant gratification!

For non-professionals, or should I say, for an editor in a hurry who does not plan to have a very elaborate work effort, this is heaven I guess.

So, kudos to Filmora for offering a good product for that specific area of the market!

rock-c wrote on 5/13/2020, 5:39 AM

What is hard to understand? :)

I had always thought Filmora is something like Corel VideoStudio, power director.

Dexcon wrote on 5/13/2020, 5:48 AM

From Filmora's website:

The Best Video Editor
Alternative to Windows Movie Maker & iMovie

I think that fairly much identifies where Filmora sees their market position and competition.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

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C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

rock-c wrote on 5/13/2020, 6:21 AM

@Dexcon @adimatis I have found a Filmora tutorial : . It seems it is indeed powerful in effects.

JJKizak wrote on 5/13/2020, 6:43 AM

If Magix Vegas had tutorials using pictograms connected by arrow chains for the novice editors who use editing sparingly that would help me a lot on the more complex operations which are used maybe one time then forgotten even if the cost of these chains is an option.

JJK

adimatis wrote on 5/13/2020, 7:36 AM

Well, there is nothing wrong with this type of editing, for sure not. Not everything must be terribly complicated and for most of the editors, something more ”preset” oriented might come not only handy, but is much faster and easier to finish.

That is what I like about Vegas actually - the fact that is simple and straight forward (for the most of it) compared with other professional editors.

I think I said this before, I think Movie Studio should actually incorporate a lot of these presets so that is becomes easier for this type of work, while Vegas Pro should develop (more) in-depth tools for those who care and need to go deeper in editing.

Dexcon wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:12 AM

That is what I like about Vegas actually - the fact that is simple and straight forward (for the most of it) compared with other professional editors.

Easy of use is surely a welcome advantage for Vegas Pro, which is great.

Movie Studio is a relatively low-cost "entry" product. The more in-depth tools that you seek might be the ones that are already offered in Vegas Post. Vegas Pro is already covering a wide range of versions catering to a lot of needs but, of course, it is always going to be for a price. Please don't expect BMW 6 equipment in a BMW 3 if you are buying a BMW 3.

 

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Former user wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:27 AM

Filmora is yet another editor that takes excellent use of GPU for processing and encoding and is light weight. I have Filmora9, but there's a pro version too. Filmora9 does not have all the features of a vegasPro. It is fast though, with a simple transcode, software render is 3x faster than vegaspro both in software AVC encode and Nvenc Hardware AVC encode. For another comparison, Davinci Resolve is also 3x faster than Vegas for Hardware encode and 2.2x faster on software encode.

It is vegasPro that is the odd one out. The other editors encode at similar speeds

 

Dexcon wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:44 AM

Just curious from a business model … how can the business survive/exist when it's product is free?

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

adimatis wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:45 AM

Be that all you like @Former user but none of them crashes as often as Vegas! ;) So, it is not all bad! :)

adimatis wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:47 AM

@Dexcon Filmora for instance produces a ton of packs with various ”preset” or goodies. They are not all free.

Then of course there are other products they might tempt you with once you are onboard.

And btw, Filmora is not free. :)

Dexcon wrote on 5/13/2020, 8:57 AM

@adimatis … I just checked out their website again as you were posting the latest comment, and yes you are right - the free version is effectively a loss leader suck-in. But is Filmora a genuine competitor to not only Vegas Pro but also Avid, Premiere Pro, Resolve and so on? If anybody thinks yes, then go for it if it meets your editing needs.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

john-brown wrote on 5/13/2020, 9:38 AM

Did anyone tell this guy that there is no such program as SONY Vegas 17?

Vegas Pro 18 Edit, Vegas Movie Studio 16 Platinum, Magix Video Pro X16, Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024, Xara Designer Pro X19, Samplitude Pro X8 Suite, Music Maker 2025 Premium, SF Audio Cleaning Lab 4, Sound Forge Pro 16 and more.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 5/13/2020, 10:24 AM

Vegas Pro is a Professional NLE, Compositor and Audio Edtor......Filmora is NOT, No matter what points are argued or what comparisons are made.

They are different tools!

adimatis wrote on 5/13/2020, 10:42 AM

This brings this image in my mind: if you only need to slice bread a knife will suffice, if you need to perform a heart surgery, you'll need a proper scalpel!

Sheer philosophy here! :)

It is true they are different tools.

As for professional... that is more debatable. Can and will you make money with it? :) It might be professional then!

Musicvid wrote on 5/13/2020, 1:28 PM

The Best Video Editor
Alternative to Windows Movie Maker & iMovie

Damning oneself with faint praise?