Slow rendering at any settings

benderis wrote on 2/4/2017, 2:46 PM

Hello. I have an issue. Whatever settings I'm using, rendering on Vegas Pro 13 is slow. It goes through like 1 frame per second. But it has the same speed no matter what settings I use: I can use 1080p with 'BEST' quality at 20 000kbps bitrate; or 240p with 'DRAFT' with smallest bitrate possible and it will still render at 1 (tops 2) frame(s) per second. I understand slow rendering with 1080, but 240? Something's fishy.

 

Also. One more question. I have rendered a video (it took me almost a day) and I spotted a small mistake in the final rewatch before uploading. Would it be possible to fix it and render it quicker? I mean.. A whole video is rendered already (I still have the project file), it's just couple of seconds that needs to be fixed.

 

Thank You for your answers.

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Musicvid wrote on 2/4/2017, 2:52 PM

Preview settings do not affect the render time.

benderis wrote on 2/4/2017, 2:59 PM

Preview settings do not affect the render time.

I am talking about rendering settings. It just shows under preview how many frames it has done.

Musicvid wrote on 2/4/2017, 8:23 PM

"If" you are changing the size or other source properties in the render, or there are ANY pan / crop / FX / generated media, compositing on the timeline, that means the bottleneck is in the upstream filters, not where you are looking.

If any of those is present, contingent on system and other mediating factors, one fps render may not be that bad.

Post complete project,render, source and output MediaInfo properties if you need more help.

 

ushere wrote on 2/4/2017, 10:32 PM

and maybe pc specs?

NickHope wrote on 2/5/2017, 3:49 AM

Try rendering to a different drive.

Also, something in this post might help, although it's more aimed at hung renders than slow ones.

Also, a very low bitrate requires more compression, and a low resolution requires resizing, so those don't necessarily mean a faster render.

Also. One more question. I have rendered a video (it took me almost a day) and I spotted a small mistake in the final rewatch before uploading. Would it be possible to fix it and render it quicker? I mean.. A whole video is rendered already (I still have the project file), it's just couple of seconds that needs to be fixed.

Depends on the format you rendered. Which "Output Format" template/settings did you use?

benderis wrote on 2/5/2017, 4:08 AM

Depends on the format you rendered. Which "Output Format" template/settings did you use?

Thank you guys, things are more clear for me now.

I rendered with "Main Concept AVC/AAC (*.mp4; *.avc)" With option of "Internet HD 1080p" and changed it a bit, but nothing serious.

astar wrote on 2/5/2017, 4:21 AM

What are you system specs? there is an app Speccy that will display your hardware details. Post a text output of that, the community may be able to help you.

Also post your Vegas Project settings, and "Media info" on your source material on your timeline.

benderis wrote on 2/5/2017, 7:36 AM

What are you system specs? there is an app Speccy that will display your hardware details. Post a text output of that, the community may be able to help you.

Also post your Vegas Project settings, and "Media info" on your source material on your timeline.

Computer is quite old laptop, so I think it's normal to have slow rendering. I was just curious why it was slow no matter what rendering settings are put. But it's most likely that the main video was reversed, sped up, cropped and sharpened. Even preview is quite slow (just jumping past like 30 frames each second).

Now my main question is.. Is there any way to re-render the project but faster? I mean.. Reversed video is already rendered in a way.. I would imagine it would be saved somewhere or something to be rendered faster. I just edited some generated media and I need to render the video again. I'm not sure if I want to wait the whole day for it again ;D

dxdy wrote on 2/5/2017, 10:52 AM

There are utilities out there that cut pieces off the front or end of an MP4. There are also utilities that concatenate a couple of MP4s. I believe they work without rendering the whole file. You could render just the last little bit of your timeline to a new file, truncate the old file, and patch on the newly rendered bit. I am not at my rendering computer or I could tell you the names of the utilities I use, but they should be easy to find.

OldSmoke wrote on 2/5/2017, 1:11 PM

I am not sure if this applies here but if the project is set to 32bit, the render time increases dramatically too.

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benderis wrote on 2/5/2017, 1:26 PM

There are utilities out there that cut pieces off the front or end of an MP4. There are also utilities that concatenate a couple of MP4s. I believe they work without rendering the whole file. You could render just the last little bit of your timeline to a new file, truncate the old file, and patch on the newly rendered bit. I am not at my rendering computer or I could tell you the names of the utilities I use, but they should be easy to find.

I'll give a shot at this. That looks helpful.

I am not sure if this applies here but if the project is set to 32bit, the render time increases dramatically too.

Nah. It's good for me with 8bit (If I'm correct about what are you talking about).

Overall, thanks for everyone. I think there are more things for video to fix, so I'll rerender some night (if earlier mentioned method won't work). Again. Thank you.

Musicvid wrote on 2/6/2017, 3:09 PM

Slow render at any settings means the bottleneck is not in the output engine, but in your upstream filters, one of more of which may be single threaded!

Think of the time when you tried to drink from the hose, and an upstream prankster pinched it.

dxdy wrote on 2/6/2017, 5:26 PM

The MP4 utilities referenced above are MP4Splitter and AVIDeMux (use the append function)