Sound Series copyright problem - help please!

john-l wrote on 8/16/2017, 7:31 AM

I have a bunch of "Sound Series" audio tracks that came with a previous version of Movie Studio Platinum. However using some of them on a YouTube video I got a copyright complaint which I'm now disputing. Sony's FAQ says the Sound clips passed over with the software so I'm guessing here is the place to ask. Anyone know what to do about this? I assume it's an automatic comparison engine that will flag up every video using the track. (YouTube then adds Ads to the video and sends them the money.) I'm guessing a lot of people bought the bundle.
The track in question is the top one here (I used the 60-second version):
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/productionmusic/skankit
The complainers:
AdShare MG for a Third Party
On behalf of: AudioSparx
Help/advice would be most appreciated!

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Former user wrote on 8/16/2017, 7:48 AM

I don't know about this specifically, but I do know that some people will pin a copyright on public licensed music (like sound series). The only action I have heard is to dispute the claim on Youtube and offer as much information as you can about the source of the music. If you do a search on the web you will find this is pretty common for music libraries.

john-l wrote on 8/16/2017, 8:49 AM

I'd really like to know who stands behind the Production Music, if anyone can help.

This is good on how YouTube copyright works:

Interesting discussion on the same people (Adshare MG):
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/handbell-l/grZQDXTq2Sg
Also:

robbif2 wrote on 8/16/2017, 6:48 PM

Here's a somewhat related, chatty video, but it tells the story of the 501(c) Hudson Valley Bluegrass Association vs. Sony re: my videos...

NickHope wrote on 8/21/2017, 4:01 AM

If you're confident that you have a license then just follow the YouTube dispute process through to it's conclusion. You'll almost certainly win, because these days the process closely follows US DMCA procedure. The party that claims they own the copyright will ultimately receive a notice containing this:

"Hi, We have received the attached counter-notification in response to a
complaint that you filed with us. As described in the US Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) 17 U.S.C. 512, by this email, we are
providing you with the counter-notification and await your notice (in
not more than 10 business days) that you have filed an action seeking a
court order to restrain the counter-notifier's allegedly infringing
activity. Such notice should be submitted by replying to this email. If
we do not receive notice from you, we will reinstate the material to
YouTube..."

When I was fighting an infringement of my own material on YouTube I asked a copyright lawyer how much it would cost to file such an action. They replied:

"To fight a counter-notification, you have to file a full copyright infringement lawsuit.  It can cost tens of thousands of dollars if you have to pay the attorneys' fees.  We take some of these cases on contingency, as long as you pay the out of pocket expenses."

john-l wrote on 8/21/2017, 6:35 AM

I have filed a copyright dispute, although I'm not entirely sure who holds the copyright to the music now, which adds to the fun. I do think it's a false match too, unless the song they represent also used the sample.
Also in the U.K. not the U.S. :-)
Well more :-( what with the Eclipse and all...

Musicvid wrote on 8/27/2017, 7:44 PM

This has absolutely nothing to do with using legitimate royalty free content for any purpose you wish.

It is a monstrous scam invented by crooked European producers, that permeates every corner of YouTube, and it can take them years to control even a single fraudulent claim.

The idea is to extort money from you, Google ads, and nothing else. Include a legal disclaimer in your YT description that quotes your license terms, do not respond to any threats or bills, and remember the threats are coming from overseas, not the US.

Here's a video of a sync test using a common metronome that was "copyrighted" AFTER THE FACT by a fraudulent German outfit calling itself Fresh bass. Took me almost three years for YouTube to take down the encumbrance. This has nothing to do with the tracks you legally paid for, remember that.

john-l wrote on 8/28/2017, 4:00 PM

In this case "Adshare MG" are a World-wide group with three offices in the U.S. and one in Europe.
https://adshare.tv/?lang=en#contacts
They do seem to claim on a lot of stuff they shouldn't though...

john-l wrote on 8/29/2017, 11:56 AM

Woo Hoo...
"Good news! After reviewing your dispute, AdShare MG for a Third Party has decided to release their copyright claim on your YouTube video."
Of course it was completely bogus in the first place and I wonder if they get to keep the money they made up until that point... but hey, a win against a big organisation counts as a win... where's the wine... ah...

Musicvid wrote on 8/29/2017, 6:32 PM

That was a quick response-- you must must have rattled those cowards.

Musicvid wrote on 8/29/2017, 6:50 PM

Another thing that has worked for me is to run full credits at the end-- even the legal, rightful owners dropped their encumbrance upon seeing this:

john-l wrote on 8/30/2017, 4:23 AM

Thanks. I think the problem is YouTube automatically match the music to everything anyone has ever claimed to own and you get zapped pretty much automatically. Credits is an interesting idea though, might help.