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Yelandkeil wrote on 3/28/2022, 6:24 AM

Which Modell???

For a computer ones, the VP-PAL is the nearest approach, better were an sRGB-chart, where you can distinguish very closer details e.g. the white between 255 and 251, or the dark gray between 4 and 12.

For HDR10/P3-DCI etc. you'd better go UTube.
I have 2 cheap HDR10-monitors with 300CD/m², so I know the following testvid can be clearly displayed by me till ca. 0:40min. Otherwise I use a kodak-foto to compare the chart-degree.

ASUS TUF Gaming B550plus BIOS3202: 
- Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GF1 850W 
- ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11PRO; 512GB/sys, 2TB/data 
- G.SKILL F4-3200C16Q-64GFX 
- AMD Ryzen9 5950x + LiquidFreezer II-240 
- XFX Speedster-MERC319-RX6900XT <-AdrenalinEdition 24.12.1
Samsung 2xLU28R55 HDR10 (300CD/m², 1499Nits/peak) ->2xDPort
ROCCAT Kave 5.1Headset/Mic ->Analog (AAFOptimusPack 6.0.9403.1)
LG DSP7 Surround 5.1Soundbar ->TOSLINK

Lumix DC-GH6: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=125, ISO=auto (250 - 6400)
DJI Mini 4 Pro: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=auto, ISO=auto
HERO5: ProtuneFlat2.7k60pLinear, WB=4800K, Shutter=auto, ISO=800

Win11Pro: 24H2-26100.4770; Direct3D API=12.2
VEGASPro22 + XMediaRecode/Handbrake + DVDArchi7 
AcidPro10 + SoundForgePro14.0.065 + SpectraLayersPro7 
K-LitecodecPack19.0.5 (MPC Video Renderer for HDR10 Playback on PC) 

Grazie wrote on 3/28/2022, 6:31 AM

@Yelandkeil - So, it does make sense to use the VP-PAL? I’ve done this before and made a “Fill Screen” Chart. And yes, of course, the Belle Nuit! Any other choices and raison d'êtres to consider?

RogerS wrote on 3/28/2022, 7:04 AM

What is the purpose of using a chart?

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/28/2022, 7:16 AM

The BelleNuit is more than enough for checking a modern SD-monitor. Or do you wanna such nonsense from labor:

ASUS TUF Gaming B550plus BIOS3202: 
- Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GF1 850W 
- ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11PRO; 512GB/sys, 2TB/data 
- G.SKILL F4-3200C16Q-64GFX 
- AMD Ryzen9 5950x + LiquidFreezer II-240 
- XFX Speedster-MERC319-RX6900XT <-AdrenalinEdition 24.12.1
Samsung 2xLU28R55 HDR10 (300CD/m², 1499Nits/peak) ->2xDPort
ROCCAT Kave 5.1Headset/Mic ->Analog (AAFOptimusPack 6.0.9403.1)
LG DSP7 Surround 5.1Soundbar ->TOSLINK

Lumix DC-GH6: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=125, ISO=auto (250 - 6400)
DJI Mini 4 Pro: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=auto, ISO=auto
HERO5: ProtuneFlat2.7k60pLinear, WB=4800K, Shutter=auto, ISO=800

Win11Pro: 24H2-26100.4770; Direct3D API=12.2
VEGASPro22 + XMediaRecode/Handbrake + DVDArchi7 
AcidPro10 + SoundForgePro14.0.065 + SpectraLayersPro7 
K-LitecodecPack19.0.5 (MPC Video Renderer for HDR10 Playback on PC) 

Musicvid wrote on 3/28/2022, 8:48 AM

@Grazie We were taught back in the days of tube monitors that the best color reference is gray. After the display profile loads on startup, I know instantly if something is off, or if I've had too much fun last night. If I can see no color shift in the gradient, and can see differentiation on the bars at right, I know I'm good to go in the morning. This one is 1080, but can be adapted to larger displays.

Grazie wrote on 3/28/2022, 9:04 AM

@Musicvid - I’m not worthy!
 

What is the purpose of using a chart?

@RogerS - Eh…. ? Confirm my Dell monitor is within Range? I’ve been playing with the Grading tool.

RogerS wrote on 3/28/2022, 9:20 AM

In that case I'd probably just run a verification using DisplayCal and your colorimeter/spectrometer of choice. I think a chart would just be a sanity check that the profile is loading and monitor hasn't suddenly degraded. I recently found Windows wasn't using my ICC Profile with one screen, so odd things do happen.

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/28/2022, 10:04 AM

Curiously, is't there a profile installer for your monitor(s)? @RogerS

@Grazie, ...Confirm my Dell monitor is within Range? 

Inversely, you'd check wether it can reach the range or not. Technically, it's how good/many % your monitor covers the sRGB-range, e.g. 82% not well, or 98% very good.

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ASUS TUF Gaming B550plus BIOS3202: 
- Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GF1 850W 
- ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11PRO; 512GB/sys, 2TB/data 
- G.SKILL F4-3200C16Q-64GFX 
- AMD Ryzen9 5950x + LiquidFreezer II-240 
- XFX Speedster-MERC319-RX6900XT <-AdrenalinEdition 24.12.1
Samsung 2xLU28R55 HDR10 (300CD/m², 1499Nits/peak) ->2xDPort
ROCCAT Kave 5.1Headset/Mic ->Analog (AAFOptimusPack 6.0.9403.1)
LG DSP7 Surround 5.1Soundbar ->TOSLINK

Lumix DC-GH6: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=125, ISO=auto (250 - 6400)
DJI Mini 4 Pro: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=auto, ISO=auto
HERO5: ProtuneFlat2.7k60pLinear, WB=4800K, Shutter=auto, ISO=800

Win11Pro: 24H2-26100.4770; Direct3D API=12.2
VEGASPro22 + XMediaRecode/Handbrake + DVDArchi7 
AcidPro10 + SoundForgePro14.0.065 + SpectraLayersPro7 
K-LitecodecPack19.0.5 (MPC Video Renderer for HDR10 Playback on PC) 

RogerS wrote on 3/28/2022, 10:29 AM

Yes, DisplayCal and Windows Color control one monitor and NEC Spectraview and Windows Color the other. The DisplayCal one stopped using the custom profile and just used sRGB I recently noticed.

Grazie wrote on 3/28/2022, 12:37 PM

Sorry guys, been busy today. Lots for me to consider. Thank you all!

Selina wrote on 3/29/2022, 2:04 AM

We were taught back in the days of tube monitors that the best color reference is gray. If I can see no color shift in the gradient, and can see differentiation on the bars at right, I know I'm good to go. This one is 1080, but can be adapted to larger displays.

@Musicvid Thanks for the chart - very useful !

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Musicvid wrote on 3/29/2022, 10:34 AM

Welcome. As my monitor wallpaper, it keeps my color brain from drifting too much.

Peter-Riding wrote on 3/29/2022, 3:15 PM

I made this chart for my own use way back in 2004. It is for printing but you get the idea and you can pop it into a track to see whats going on