Unsynced.

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/10/2017, 6:24 PM

Before someone tells me to record in x264 in OBS, that doesn't work. Any new video I open in Vegas Pro 14 is unsynced from its audio. Not only that but the video starts early and freezes at the end frame for a couple seconds before the video ends. It's like Vegas doesn't want to open videos properly anymore for my newer videos because I've opened older videos and they seem to be completely fine. I also noticed there isn't a loading bar for when Vegas is building the peaks for new videos.

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Musicvid wrote on 3/10/2017, 6:29 PM

Post your complete MediaInfo Properties, please.

CogDiv wrote on 3/10/2017, 7:13 PM

My recorder actually has audio sync issues if I use the unbalanced audio line in while recording a video stream through HDMI. This is more of a DAC (or ADC) issue, in my case. A little practice using Vegas Pro and you will be able to resync the audio, however; if that is the issue in your case.

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/10/2017, 9:29 PM

Post your complete MediaInfo Properties, please.

In all honesty I don't think the media is the problem. I feel like this is a bug in Vegas. Even if I CTRL+U synced, the beginning of the video being gone is still an issue.

Musicvid wrote on 3/10/2017, 9:58 PM

 

Please see the sticky on this forum to post MEDIAINFO properties, thanks. That's an actual utility.

Opinions notwithstanding, we don't know what CODEC was used, or whether the stream is PS or TS. Without AT LEAST this essential information, troubleshooting your sync problem becomes an unmitigated crapshoot, as you may have already seen...

This goes tenfold for MOV files that open with the QUICKTIME, not Vegas libraries!

Thanks for understanding, or at least for giving fifteen years of experience the benefit of the doubt...

 

GJeffrey wrote on 3/10/2017, 11:54 PM

This goes tenfold for MOV files that open with the QUICKTIME, not Vegas libraries!

Thanks for understanding, or at least for giving fifteen years of experience the benefit of the doubt

Obviously your 15 years experience missed the last few Vegas version...

@ the OP

Use this utility to post your media properties.

NickHope wrote on 3/11/2017, 1:29 AM

Actually, follow the instructions in this post so we also know which codec Vegas wants to decode the footage with.

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/11/2017, 2:57 AM

General
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                                : 25.1 MiB
Duration                                 : 25 s 167 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 8 378 kb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf57.66.102

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 25 s 167 ms
Bit rate                                 : 8 242 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.298
Stream size                              : 24.7 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Full
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 25 s 148 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 393 KiB (2%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
 

NickHope wrote on 3/11/2017, 3:36 AM

What are the Vegas file properties (as described in my previous post)?

What settings did you use to record the file?

Your MediaInfo report says it's a Quicktime file. It will really be better if you avoid Quicktime completely.

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/11/2017, 4:10 AM

Your MediaInfo report says it's a Quicktime file. It will really be better if you avoid Quicktime completely.

Okay, what should my files be instead of Quicktime and can I convert the videos I have in Quicktime?

As far as recording settings go, I put the format as a .MOV and I use my Nvidia processor as the encoder

NickHope wrote on 3/11/2017, 4:20 AM
Okay, what should my files be instead of Quicktime and can I convert the videos I have in Quicktime?

Before we jump ahead to that, can we please find out what codec Vegas is trying to use to play your files, as requested by my previous 2 comments? You only gave us the MediaInfo part, not the Vegas file properties part. The method to do it is still in this post. It might be trying to use Vegas' own compoundplug.dll decoder, not the Quicktime qtplug.dll decoder. Knowing which will help us solve your issue.

Musicvid wrote on 3/11/2017, 8:05 AM

I've never used MediaArea to download free software; the MediaInfo project lives at https://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/

Still, one must take care to install only the product.

Musicvid wrote on 3/11/2017, 12:03 PM

I'm pretty sure what Nick is asking is to go to the second screen you posted above, scroll down until the Media details are shown, and post another screenshot with that information as well.

Nick is trying to determine if it is the QUICKTIME or Vegas libraries that are trying to mediate the loading of this particular file.

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/11/2017, 12:06 PM
General
  Name: 2017-03-09 02-19-03.mov
  Folder: C:\Users\Laguz Legend\Videos\uncut footage
  Type: QuickTime
  Size: 25.74 MB (26,356,264 bytes)
  Created: Thursday, March 9, 2017, 2:19:04 AM
  Modified: Thursday, March 9, 2017, 2:19:30 AM
  Accessed: Thursday, March 9, 2017, 2:19:04 AM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:25.167, 30.000 fps progressive, 1280x720x24, H.264
  Audio: 00:00:25.147, 44,100 Hz, 32 Bit (IEEE Float), Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [GUDE]: {7BB3FE15-954A-4E75-B5E1-45EE98F74990}

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: qt7plug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 14.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\qt7plug
  Format: QuickTime 7
  Version: Version 14.0 (Build 211)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

Musicvid wrote on 3/11/2017, 12:10 PM

Heh

I suspected it was QUICKTIME. Very old 32 bit code. You may need a third party converter; encoding mp4 from GoPro Studio may be just the ticket for you! Or Handbrake.

GoPro should also take care of that 32 bit float audio for you.

Nick may know of a way to trick Vegas into trying it's own internal dll.....

 

GJeffrey wrote on 3/11/2017, 4:29 PM

I've never used MediaArea to download free software; the MediaInfo project lives at https://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/

FYI, MediaArea is the company created by Mediainfo author (https://github.com/MediaArea/MediaInfo - http://www.verif.com/societe/MEDIAAREA.NET-500291844/)

@Laguz-Legend.

You can use ffmpeg to convert mov to mp4 without reencoding. There are many free GUI available.

Or, you can use the following command for single file

ffmpeg -I input.mov -c:v copy -c:a copy output.mp4

If you want to convert a bunch of files to mp4 then you can make a batch file.

Open notepad and type

for %%a in ("*.mov") do ffmpeg -i %%a -c:v copy -c:a copy %%~na.mp4

Save as convert2mp4.bat in the folder where the mov files are and double click the bat file.

Musicvid wrote on 3/11/2017, 7:09 PM

Changing the container format in this case is a easy as changing the Window file extension from .mov to .mp4; the two container formats, when used with avc, are otherwise indistinguishable to mortals.

I suspect this is not the OP's solution, however, although it can't hurt to try...

GJeffrey wrote on 3/11/2017, 8:06 PM

Changing the container format in this case is a easy as changing the Window file extension from .mov to .mp4

You're wrong, it's completely different. The header is also modified by rewrapping with ffmpeg, so vegas use another dll (compoundplug i/o qt) to open the file...

I let you check that...

Check this thread as well.

 

NickHope wrote on 3/11/2017, 8:29 PM

@Laguz-Legend Thanks for posting the Vegas file properties. GJeffrey's post above (ffmpeg) is the solution for converting your existing footage. There are many ffmpeg GUIs and other converters that may make that more user-friendly, such as FFmpegYAG or AVANTI. I haven't tested them.

These are the OBS Studio (version 18.0.1) output settings I use for recording most stuff. The files play nicely in Vegas:

Laguz-Legend wrote on 3/12/2017, 4:20 AM

THANK YOU NICK AND THANK YOU JEFFERY!

The problem is finally fixed, FFmpegYAG work like a charm and now my videos are running perfectly on vegas. I can't thank you guys enough!

Musicvid wrote on 3/12/2017, 9:44 AM

Nick may know of a way to trick Vegas into trying it's own internal dll....

And as is so often the case, Nick already knew how. It would be helpful to to see the MediaInfo for the rewrapped file if the OP is willing.