UPDATE: Vegas Pro 20 Laggy After Importing Media Files

IrishNachos wrote on 12/4/2022, 8:07 PM

It's been nearly 4 weeks since my original post and unfortunately, my lag situation has not improved. I've tried all the posted suggestions plus others I found during my search for a solution. So, for now, I will just have to live with it. I'm almost certain it has to do with the building of proxies of the imported media in the background, but it's never taken so much time and it never frozen Vegas like it's doing now. I'm not editing 4K videos nor are they larger than a few hundred Mb.

Mod feel free to close the thread.

 

 

 

 

Vegas Pro 20, build 214

Windows 10 Home Edition

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor  3.40 GHz

GPU Radeon RX 570 16 GB

RAM 64 GB

2 Tb SSD

Both Windows and Vegas are up to date. I have not made any setting changes to Vegas nor added new apps to my pc.

This problem started about a week ago, prior to that I've had no issues. When I import media files of any kind (video or audio) the files show in my project media tab normally, however, the program then freezes/lags for 5-6 minutes. Any user input is put into a holding pattern until whatever process is happening finally completes then the program is super laggy for another minute or so. This does not affect the preview window specifically, it affects everything. After this Vegas works normally. It's only naughty when adding media files.

Any idea what's causing this?

Thank you in advance.

 

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 12/4/2022, 10:12 PM

Post properties for a file that consistently causes the issue. My guess is that it's building a proxy, which is a good thing.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

IrishNachos wrote on 12/8/2022, 11:28 PM

Thanks for replying. You may be correct but it's never done this before. I updated my AMD GPU drivers and that helped somewhat but the issue has not completely resolved. I'm going to update every driver associated with Vegas Pro and see if that helps.

 

General
  Name: 1960s, MEN THAT BUILT THE BOMB.mp4
  Folder: C:\Users\
  Type: AVC
  Size: 1.36 GB (1,388,292,315 bytes)
  Created: Friday, October 14, 2022, 9:50:18 PM
  Modified: Friday, October 14, 2022, 9:54:36 PM
  Accessed: Friday, December 9, 2022, 10:13:43 AM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 01:11:08.389, 23.976 fps progressive, 1440x1080x12, AVC
  Audio: 01:11:08.502, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, AAC

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 20.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 20.0 (Build 214)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

RogerS wrote on 12/8/2022, 11:32 PM

When media is added Vegas builds an audio peaks file and if over 4K also a proxy video. Other than that there's a new project collections feature in 20 you can disable that can cause lags when it saves.

Also you listed your CPU twice with no GPU listed.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 12/9/2022, 12:16 AM

Have you analysed the PC, using the task manager of Windows? To see better, what is going on?

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

fr0sty wrote on 12/9/2022, 2:51 AM

When you import the media, does it say "creating video proxy" in the bottom left corner of the screen? If so, VEGAS is set to automatically create proxies for that type of media. This can result in smoother playback for hard to decode media (when the preview monitor is set to "draft" or "preview", proxies are ignored otherwise), but it takes a while to encode them initially. Maybe the performance hit you are seeing is due to that.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

IrishNachos wrote on 12/9/2022, 12:10 PM

Sometimes, but it usually will only lag for a few seconds. Now it's lagging for 25-45 seconds. It's the fact that this is a new occurrence that is puzzling me.

fr0sty wrote on 12/9/2022, 7:06 PM

The amount of time it takes to create the proxy is determined by the length of the clip it is converting when creating the proxy... are these clips longer than what you usually edit? You can also cancel the proxy generation process, there's a cancel button next to the progress bar on the bottom left... if you cancel it and it still plays back OK, then you can disable automatic proxy generation and save time.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Former user wrote on 12/9/2022, 7:22 PM

I've seen that before , a long time ago, probably VP18, uninstalling and reinstalling didn't do anything. A Vegas reset worked.

Also depending on codecs on timeline and CPU, it can be common for projects to take longer to load when GPU decoding is turned off

IrishNachos wrote on 12/10/2022, 3:32 PM

Good tips, thank you! If I reset VP will I lose my preferences?

Former user wrote on 12/10/2022, 4:29 PM

@IrishNachos Yes, and you'll have to reinstall any 3rd party plugins again, it's part of removing a Vegas that has potentially become corrupt

Ensure though it's not the automatic proxy building situation, although you should only see that on files with a resolution above 4K

My VP19b643 got corrupt, and that was like a beta VP20. I didn't have your lag problem though, just constant crashing.