Vegas Pro 17: Bandicam HEVC files unsupported

Musicvid wrote on 8/29/2019, 7:06 PM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Sylk wrote on 8/29/2019, 7:25 PM

If you want the MediaInfo (from MPC-HC):

About a CFR file

General
Complete name                  : D:\temp\capture\xxxx.mp4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media
Codec ID                       : isom (mp41)
File size                      : 9.78 MiB
Duration                       : 35 s 17 ms
Overall bit rate               : 2 343 kb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 00:48:22
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 00:48:22
Writing application            : Bandicam 4.4.3.1557 / DX11 / Nvidia NVENC

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main@L5@Main
Codec ID                       : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                  : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                       : 35 s 17 ms
Bit rate                       : 2 341 kb/s
Width                          : 2 560 pixels
Height                         : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 60.000 FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.011
Stream size                    : 9.77 MiB (100%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 00:48:22
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 00:48:22

And about a VFR file

General
Complete name                  : D:\temp\capture\xxxx.mp4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media
Codec ID                       : isom (mp41)
File size                      : 9.79 MiB
Duration                       : 36 s 183 ms
Overall bit rate               : 2 269 kb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 00:49:38
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 00:49:38
Writing application            : Bandicam 4.4.3.1557 / DX11 / Nvidia NVENC

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main@L5@Main
Codec ID                       : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                  : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                       : 36 s 183 ms
Bit rate                       : 2 267 kb/s
Width                          : 2 560 pixels
Height                         : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Variable
Frame rate                     : 58.065 FPS
Minimum frame rate             : 1.429 FPS
Maximum frame rate             : 60.060 FPS
Original frame rate            : 60.000 FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.011
Stream size                    : 9.78 MiB (100%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 00:49:38
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 00:49:38

Sylk wrote on 8/29/2019, 7:44 PM

And about a VFR AVC/h264 NVENC file, properly imported and supported

General
Complete name                  : D:\temp\capture\xxxx.mp4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media
Codec ID                       : isom (mp41)
File size                      : 2.26 MiB
Duration                       : 13 s 600 ms
Overall bit rate               : 1 393 kb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 05:41:35
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 05:41:35
Writing application            : Bandicam 4.4.3.1557 / DX11 / Nvidia NVENC

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames     : 1 frame
Codec ID                       : avc1
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                       : 13 s 600 ms
Bit rate                       : 1 391 kb/s
Width                          : 2 560 pixels
Height                         : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Variable
Frame rate                     : 48.971 FPS
Minimum frame rate             : 0.968 FPS
Maximum frame rate             : 60.060 FPS
Original frame rate            : 60.000 FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.008
Stream size                    : 2.26 MiB (100%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2019-08-29 05:41:35
Tagged date                    : UTC 2019-08-29 05:41:35

Musicvid wrote on 8/29/2019, 7:58 PM

And the audio? Is there no audio track?

Sylk wrote on 8/29/2019, 8:34 PM

Not in those, but same issue with audio (AAC) included (or in separate linked files). However, no audio in the AVC/h264 video, and it works.

I see the issue is already old (https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/need-help-dropping-hevc-files-into-vegas-pro-15--109912/), so i hope that a solution will be quickly found, in 2019 and the more and more widespread use of this codec.

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 2:27 AM

4K HEVC files are loading good and fast in my VPro 17 on laptop from signature and play in preview full at 50p in that preview.
Media Info of such a files

Look

Something wrong with your hardware and drivers I think, but you did tell nothing about that.

BTW, your file has a very low bitrate for those kind of files.

Sylk wrote on 8/30/2019, 3:55 AM

x265 HEVC file is properly imported but not Bandicam HEVC files

MPC-HC can play it, MacX HD Video Converter can transcode it (to mkv) and my GPU is a GTX1080 so i think Vegas unsupport it.

Musicvid wrote on 8/30/2019, 10:31 AM

If you Will upload a captured sample to Drive or Dropbox, we can give it another look.

Honestly though, these capture programs are infamous for churning out dysfunctional file formats. Playing and editing are two different sandlots.

Sylk wrote on 8/30/2019, 3:34 PM

Something wrong with (...) drivers I think

You right. I had need to keep old drivers but indeed, a drivers update (436.15) solve this. Now Bandicam HEVC NVENC files are properly recognize and imported in VEGAS.

Thanks everyone for help.

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 3:43 PM

Maybe you find that's the best option for you, but maybe you need to read this forum a little bit better. You installed the newest Nvidia drivers but not the good ones. You use now a Game Driver of Nvidia and you must have thenewest Studio driver. Read this from the Vegas developpers: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/seems-vegas-has-moved-more-towards-nvidia-over-amd-why--116727/?page=1#ca726483

Sylk wrote on 8/30/2019, 4:26 PM

@j-v

Yeah, that's funny, i just to read and comment it :D

I'll try GR drivers for now, if it is really problematic i'll alternate to Studio and GameReady.

j-v wrote on 8/30/2019, 5:22 PM

For you not important I think, because also with older (not GR) drivers playing your games you did not miss them, but when you were trying to edit your files with Vegas, they were not "supported" as you said it.
What in your case should than be the most important thing to renew, drivers for your gaming or for your trying to edit?

wwaag wrote on 8/30/2019, 6:46 PM

Here's a bit of a wrinkle. I just updated my Nvidia Studio Drivers to the latest version. Using those drivers with the latest version of Bandicam produces nvenc hevc files that Vegas "cannot" decode. I've tried in all versions from V14-V17. I was a bit surprised that whydat had successfully imported such files. It may be that use of Bandicam for recording requires use of the Game Ready rather than Studio Driver. I guess the best advice is to use whatever works for you.

Sylk wrote on 8/31/2019, 2:19 AM

@j-v

There are periods I devote myself to 3D modeling, or footage editing, and I do not play at all, for a very long time (months or even years) so I admit that in this case the Studio driver is obvious naturally. But currently, I take time to play and edit, so both are useful, one as much as the other.

@wwaag

Oh? Interesting. I need to try Studio driver to check that. Another possibility, it's due to what i checked in preferences about Deprecated Features and I/O tabs, like "Nvidia NVENC" decoder in the listbox at bottom (can't post screenshot or more details for now because Vegas currently encode for half hour, i'll be back).

Sylk wrote on 8/31/2019, 3:50 AM

Ok so, i can confrim that if selected hardware decoder isn't "NVidia NVDEC", the Bandicam HEVC files are unknown...

Maybe a recent drivers are finally not the solution. Need to switch back to my older 388.71 to be sure.

wwaag wrote on 8/31/2019, 11:51 AM

@Sylk

Just to confirm that it works the same here in V17. Can read if Nvidia hardware decoder is selected with Studio Drivers. Still no luck for previous versions.

Sylk wrote on 8/31/2019, 5:43 PM

After tests, Bandicam H265 needs both; 4xx driver installed and NVDEC as Hardware Decoder selected.