Video decoding problem in Vegas pro 18

BoredBilly wrote on 11/13/2020, 1:45 PM

Hello again :) Sorry for my english... But i have this problem... I`m using Magix vegas pro 18 . Some mov files are using GPU on 80 - 90 % and on preview everything works perfect . But some mov files are using gpu only on 4% and preview is freezing and lagging . And when I`m rendering one mov file with legacy gpu rendering , vegas uses 80% of gpu and when I`m rendering another mov file vegas uses 7% of gpu and takes more time . What i can do in this situation ? Graphics card - xfx Rx 560 . Installed last driver . Windows 10 uptadet . Vegas 18 build 373 . Sorry for my english again .

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j-v wrote on 11/13/2020, 2:01 PM

For some help show here the MediaInfo of both files with that difference in GPU use and velocity at rendering. MediaInfp following this link:https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

 

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BoredBilly wrote on 11/13/2020, 4:28 PM

For some help show here the MediaInfo of both files with that difference in GPU use and velocity at rendering. MediaInfp following this link:https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

 

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\BoredBilly\Downloads\closeup-businessman-talking-on-phone-at-street-man-N7WHU2L.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 1.52 GiB
Duration                                 : 19 s 560 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 666 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:08
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:45
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : ProRes
Format version                           : Version 0
Format profile                           : 422 HQ
Codec ID                                 : apch
Duration                                 : 19 s 560 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 666 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 3.212
Stream size                              : 1.52 GiB (100%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Writing library                          : abm0
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:08
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:45
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Other
ID                                       : 2
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : QuickTime TC
Duration                                 : 19 s 560 ms
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 11:49:00:14
Time code, striped                       : Yes
Title                                    : Core Media Time Code
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:08
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-06-19 15:45:45
General
  Name: closeup-businessman-talking-on-phone-at-street-man-N7WHU2L.mov
  Folder: C:\Users\BoredBilly\Downloads
  Type: MAGIX Intermediate
  Size: 1,59 GB (1 628 283 483 bytes)
  Created: 13 ноября 2020 г., 17:56:48
  Modified: 13 ноября 2020 г., 18:06:43
  Accessed: 14 ноября 2020 г., 2:26:25
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:19,560, 25,000 fps progressive, 3840x2160x32, Intermediate

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: mxhevcplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxhevcplug
  Format: MAGIX Intermediate
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

BoredBilly wrote on 11/13/2020, 4:31 PM 
This file rendering faster : 
General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\BoredBilly\Downloads\successful-businessman-outdoor-near-glass-business-3RB8U5Z.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size                                : 108 MiB
Duration                                 : 14 s 520 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 62.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-08-11 02:39:19
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-08-11 02:39:20
TIM                                      : 00:00:00:00
TSC                                      : 25
TSZ                                      : 1

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L5
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=4, N=25
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 14 s 520 ms
Bit rate                                 : 62.6 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.207
Stream size                              : 108 MiB (100%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-08-11 02:39:19
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-08-11 02:39:19
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC
General
  Name: successful-businessman-outdoor-near-glass-business-3RB8U5Z.mov
  Folder: C:\Users\BoredBilly\Downloads
  Type: AVC
  Size: 110,91 MB (113 572 825 bytes)
  Created: 13 ноября 2020 г., 17:57:12
  Modified: 13 ноября 2020 г., 18:04:01
  Accessed: 14 ноября 2020 г., 2:30:13
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:14,520, 25,000 fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 9

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

Musicvid wrote on 11/13/2020, 7:43 PM

A 62.6 Mbps 108 MB file encodes faster than a 666 Mbps 1.5 GB file?

Well, I certainly do hope so. It is more than ten times smaller!

RogerS wrote on 11/13/2020, 10:44 PM

Because AVC uses hardware decoding/encoding and ProRes/Magix Intermediate does not?

j-v wrote on 11/14/2020, 3:59 AM

And the first file has 4 times the dimensions than the second one and is decoded by an older plugin than the second one that uses the much newer so4 compound plugin to decode.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver 566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

BoredBilly wrote on 11/14/2020, 5:30 AM

Первый файл имеет в 4 раза больше размеров, чем второй, и декодируется более старым плагином, чем второй, который использует для декодирования гораздо более новый составной плагин so4.

And what to do?

RogerS wrote on 11/14/2020, 5:36 AM

Export AVC files if you are in a hurry.

If playback isn't smooth on your system, switch to preview/full or right-click on media and create a proxy file.