To be able to answer seriously, information to your system environment and to exact data (Mediainfo) to your used media files are needed.
Start at points B and C of the following tutorial:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

You are also welcome to enter your system environment in your profile under "My Signature", as many forum participants have already done - then the data can be viewed directly by the other users - who want to help you.

To be able to answer seriously, information to your system environment and to exact data (Mediainfo) to your used media files are needed.
Start at points B and C of the following tutorial:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

You are also welcome to enter your system environment in your profile under "My Signature", as many forum participants have already done - then the data can be viewed directly by the other users - who want to help you.

Thanks Walter,

Do you think there are VP19 users that have GH6 files (mov all kinds) and when they do a new VP project they work like a charm? My systems are pretty robust, and like I said I tried all the fixes online that I could find.

It's so simple to edit projects in VP, I'd hate to start from scratch on Premier.

Btw, I've been through similar issues in the past with the then "new gopro" files and eventually VP comes out with a version that just works with them.

In both cases the gopro and now Gh6 files, windows always played them smoothly no issues, but the VP editor was no bueno.

Thanks

Don't know why.
But glad to see you've found your right tool!

We are still here discussing about VEGAS' advantage and disadvantage and give our suggestions to each other or even to the VEGAS team.

That's why its name VEGAS Forum.
Someone comes and someone goes...the forum stays.

By the way, this is 17 second GH6 video example that is very laggy in VP but plays back fine in windows and premier. It'd be interesting to see if it works with your VP config.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZXqVPxFkos5EcRhDA_vjmursxagQn65_?usp=sharing

Again, it'd be great to get VP working well but I've tested so many things recommended in forums and videos not sure what gives.

@serd
No problem to load and play that file in VPro 19 on my laptop from signature, look

Wow, thank you!

So it's something in the config of VP19. Any video suggestions on how to fix? I've tried all the youtube ones I can find and nothing. I know this isn't a technical export of my system but this is my video settings

1. Show here the Help/Check for Drivers Updates
2. Do you know how to use proxies?

@serd Yep that file plays terrible on my machine, only after creating proxy with Preview - (Half) did it play at full 59,94fps, I would suggest you fill in your Signature with your system specs as requested & download MediaInfo https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo so in future you can share the file information,

@Steve_Rhoden If you can't answer nicely or helpfully, don't bother!

@j-v You do this quite often, you say no problem on your machine yet other's struggle to play a problem file, it's good that it plays without problem on your laptop but you share 0 initial helpful information about how your Vegas is setup to achieve that flawless playback. ?

PS @serd many on here are aware of Vegas's lack of playback ability & performance but most are loyal & have their head in the sand reg these issues.

@Former user

@j-v You do this quite often, you say no problem on your machine yet other's struggle to play a problem file, it's good that it plays without problem on your laptop but you share 0 initial helpful information about how your Vegas is setup to achieve that flawless playback. ?

I don't agree with you and I will not tell another user what his has to do not knowing his settings a.s.o.
BTW. I asked the OP to tell some things that might be a reason and if I say that it plays with me without a problem it is always with all default settings made by the program itself, unless I say what I evt. changed

@Former user I was not referring to you. I response to how i see fit to answer users here. Don't come here telling me how i should phrase my responses.... You flood this forum continuously with your sarcastic tones, don't think you can try that nonsense with me.

@Steve_Rhoden I'll tell you what i like, your comment was useless & unnecessary,

@serd Yep that file plays terrible on my machine, only after creating proxy with Preview - (Half) did it play at full 59,94fps, I would suggest you fill in your Signature with your system specs as requested & download MediaInfo https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo so in future you can share the file information,

@Steve_Rhoden If you can't answer nicely or helpfully, don't bother!

@j-v You do this quite often, you say no problem on your machine yet other's struggle to play a problem file, it's good that it plays without problem on your laptop but you share 0 initial helpful information about how your Vegas is setup to achieve that flawless playback. ?

PS @serd many on here are aware of Vegas's lack of playback ability & performance but most are loyal & have their head in the sand reg these issues.

Thank you so much! I felt like I was the only one out there with this issue. I created the proxy file and I can see what I'm hearing again. I think this will be the ticket at least for now.

I will upload my systems info next time I have an issue.

Also I apologize, I could have written my post a little differently, didn't mean to imply that premier is a better program I was just very frustrated.

It's been a while but I remember having issues with the new gopro format years ago, at some point that issue disappeared for me with with of the new VP versions and perhaps this one with the GH6 files will go away in a future release.

Have a great Sunday folks and thanks again!

- Sergio

@serd I understand your pain when you say it plays fine in Adobe, here's your file playing in MEP flawlessly at full fps, good preview res with no proxy , it is a cheaper program but has less features & overall controls tho,

 I know why, and it was a deliberate decision made more than twenty years ago when Vegas was under its first owner. Adobe Premiere does, and always has done something known as "background rendering." It happens silently, but steals system resources until it is finished.

The original developers of Vegas didn't like this collateral, so they created "proxy rendering" in its place. You create a surrogate file once, use it on the timeline, and it gets replaced out when rendering takes place. The downside, of course, is that one must wait until the proxy render is finished, something even many adults have trouble being patient with.

GH5 / GH6 footage needs a proxy in order to preview smoothly for many users.

I have no argument with anyone who prefers Premiere's behavior, which is to render the proxy in the background; I don't use it because I prefer Vegas for other reasons.

@Musicvid Sorry, I don't understand your explanation of the difference between background rendering in Premiere and Vegas proxy creation. What does Premiere render in the background, proxies? Does Vegas renders proxies in the foreground? What's the difference?

Premiere decodes and renders its preview continuously in the background, at least that's my understanding of why it is smoother than having Vegas trying to preview the source in realtime. That said, I haven't used Premiere in years, so my impressions are dated.

@serd  Can you please post the MEDIAINFO (google it) text page for the problem footage. Also the CPU & GPU you are using.

GH6 makes a wide variety of HEVC files in 8bit, 10bit, 24p.-120p, UHD, 4k DCI, 4.4.k, 5.7k, open gate....

Can't suggest a fix or explanation without those important details. (PS I have this camera too, so can maybe suggest a solution.)

I just downloaded the sample file. I don't have Premiere to compare but have Davinci Resolve (free version) in which this sample file directly plays at full speed and full resolution (so no background or foreground proxy creation). Also in Powerdirector no need to create a proxy first, plays directly at full speed and in full resolution. In Vegas no fluent play in full resolution possible, only when created first a proxy which is just 1280x720 surrogate file, it will play fluent, which is quite obvious.

Sorry, I don't download random files off the internet.

My own GH6 UHD 420 8 bit files will playback in Vegas through the intel QSV decoder. The other types will not. (They also won't playback properly in Resolve, because, duh, there is no QSV decoding from my CPU)

Need to have specs from the OP is he/she wants help.

My TLDR workflow opinion: ALWAYS MAKE PROXIES!!!!!

(Vegas loves Grass Valley .avi HD res, Q=5,Max=30)

@Kinvermark This is that download file info

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Sorry, I don't download random files off the internet.

My own GH6 UHD 420 8 bit files will playback in Vegas through the intel QSV decoder. The other types will not. (They also won't playback properly in Resolve, because, duh, there is no QSV decoding from my CPU)

Need to have specs from the OP is he/she wants help.

 

My TLDR workflow opinion: ALWAYS MAKE PROXIES!!!!!

(Vegas loves Grass Valley .avi HD res, Q=5,Max=30)

 

@Kinvermark thank you for your help.

I shoot MOV files because that is the only way I know I can access 4k Variable Frame Rate of 180fps and they are all 10bit

I see that MP4 offers a lot of 8bit options but no VFR.

The specs from GH6 menu:

MOV, FULL

420/10bit/LongGOP,LPCM

3840x2160 59.94p

200Mbps

VFR available

HGL available

Thanks!

The file does not play smoothly on my PC either - It plays at about 50-55 fps (PC description in my signature)
@serd
Would be nice if you would also provide the information requested by several helpers.