YouTube video processing takes 4 days after upload

marcinzm wrote on 5/7/2022, 4:01 PM

Hello,

 

I know that YouTube still recommends h264 codes for uploading videos.

I have a feq questions regarding to it. Maybe someone can share your knowledge about them.

1) H265 codec gives a better quality in video. It is a fact. Does h265 codec in uploading video on Youtube give better quality in Youtube than h264 codec which is officialy mentioned by Youtube as a good practice and a recommendation?

2) I uploaded 38 minutes 4K video in h265 codec in maximum 65 Mbps bitrate on 3rd May. Now it is May 7th, but Youtube still has been processing the video. I would like to share the video after 4K resolution would be available. Do you know if I would have uploaded the same video but in h264 codec, the video had been processed much quicker than in h265 codec and had better quality than h265 codec?

3) Do you know some Youtube duration boundaries which has impact on extended Youtube processing after upload such video on Youtube?

4) I know that YouTube reduces quality of the video comparing to the original. Do you know some Youtube recommendation which let the Youtube video reducing quality rate be as low as possible? I ask you for video and audio recommendations.

5) Are h265 codec videos processed much longer by Youtube comparing h264? Is it any sense to upload videos in h265 codecs in that case bases on the fact that h264 is a official recommendation by YouTube? I know that internet connection would be a limit, but I have 300 Mbps uploading speed possibilities, so uploading h264 or h265 is not the problem for me.

Regards

Marcin

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Musicvid wrote on 5/7/2022, 10:46 PM

1) H265 codec gives a better quality in video. It is a fact.

.h265 has higher compression for about the same quality as .h264.

Now it is May 7th, but Youtube still has been processing the video.

That is neither normal nor expected.

3) Do you know some Youtube duration boundaries which has impact on extended Youtube processing after upload such video on Youtube?

No.

Do you know some Youtube recommendation which let the Youtube video reducing quality rate be as low as possible?

As long a fair minimum bitrate is achieved, no, the tail does not wag the dog. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/wagging-the-dog-effects-of-hyperoptimal-youtube-upload-bitrates--114098/

Do you know some Youtube recommendation which let the Youtube video reducing quality rate be as low as possible?

In general, .h264 is best for HD, and .h265 is best for 4k+ at 50 mbps and above,

Are h265 codec videos processed much longer by Youtube comparing h264?

Yes, but nothing like what you describe. Web optimized video starts processing immediately on upload; not-optimized video must upload entirely before processing begins, so it takes almost twice as long.

Former user wrote on 5/7/2022, 11:35 PM

@marcinzm Hi, I normally use & upload to YT AVC H.264 simply because it's compatible with almost everything,

Reading Google reg H.264 vs H.265 for YT upload there is a lot of negativity towards H.265 uploads, but iPhone's are mentioned on here occasionally & my friend uses one, I believe the default camera setting is HDR which records in H.265 HEVC, so I'm sure by now YT will have sorted any prob it did have with H.265 & in the Help section of YT it mentions this -

So i did a quick test, rendered a 3min clip in HEVC & it uploaded to YT, it went through Checks & Processing no prob, it's 4am here so the internet is quiet but i'd swear the upload was as fast as normal,

Interesting that on my Dashboard the video shows only the SD symbol, even when a normal (H.264) video is still processing the HD & 4k are there but flashing until that is processed,

Normal

This 4k H.265 HEVC test

but if viewed on YT it shows 4K as an option, the on screen image quality also backs that up 🤷‍♂️

Normally when i have a problem with a YT upload it's because of the orig file name on the PC, YT doesn't like too many numbers in the name, my phone gives a title to the clips eg. 20220505_161928, YT doesn't like those. I once bought some new tools, I called the project on my Vegas/PC 'Tool Porn' just for my own amusement 😂 & so it got rendered out with that name (AVC H.264) , I uploaded it to YT & changed the name in the YT upload dialogue box, but processing took forever, so i deleted it, changed the name on my PC then uploaded to YT again, processing went through no prob,

I looked into this later, if YT finds a prob the YT bots can't deal with it goes to an independent human reviewer, I'm guessing there's a waiting list & those people will work 9-5 Mon-Fri,

I have 390 videos on YT so just thought i'd share

set wrote on 5/8/2022, 12:20 AM

Try reupload.

One time had similar issue and reupload works.

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Former user wrote on 5/9/2022, 6:44 AM

@marcinzm Hi, how did you get on with the YT upload?

marcinzm wrote on 5/9/2022, 5:15 PM

@Former user Hi, I reuploaded a video file in the evening and after less than 24 hours the video was successfuly processed by YouTube. I removed the previous upload, which YouTube wasn`t able to process. I think that was a bug in YouTube or maybe YouTube Artificial Intelligence which checks the legal of the video content made a video hung on.

Last changed by marcinzm on 5/9/2022, 5:16 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

Former user wrote on 5/9/2022, 7:31 PM

@marcinzm Good, glad you got it sorted 👍 that HEVC I put up, the res icon never changed from SD, so I think I'll stick with H.264, people watching my UHD videos on their phones, tablets or laptops aren't going to notice, I used to upload in FHD 1920x1080 & I asked in a vid if the UHD was better, the replies I got were that either they didn't notice or the old FHD were fine 😂😂🤷‍♂️

24hrs to upload & processed, is that normal for you?

Former user wrote on 5/10/2022, 11:03 PM

@Former user It depends on the popularity of the channel. If no to low viewers encoding is massively depriotised compared to your channel whee you get a few thousand views a video. As an example a recent 1080P YT stream I was watching on a new channel went for 23mins, 4 hours later it still hasn't been re-encoded as a VOD, but if you were to do a 2hour stream you may have an encoded vod 20mins later.

 

marcinzm wrote on 5/11/2022, 3:49 AM

@Former user I upload my videos very fast, because I have 300 Mbps speed upload transfer (fiber internet connection).

I always upload my videos in 4K HEVC. Sometimes, YouTube processes my videos quickly, but I noticed that it depends on duration of the video. If video is 3-5 minutes long, then YT processes it very quickly, even a few minutes after upload. If video is more than 30 minutes long, YT processes it from one day to even a few days.

But, lately I uploaded 4K HEVC video which was 98 minutes long (of cours 4K HEVC and 65 Mbps bitrate). I uploaded this video at 11 pm and next day at 10 am the video was already processed by YT. So I don`t know what to think about it globally. Maybe, and even for sure, it depends on the uploading traffic globally in YT.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

Former user wrote on 5/11/2022, 8:49 AM

@marcinzm Thanks, i was just wondering if that was normal, yeah it's all about a global thing, I upload late at night even early morning, often because i've been editing all night & that's when the final is rendered out, watched again & ready for upload, also tho because the net is quiet at night time,

For me a ½hr AVC will finish uploading in 30-40mins-ish, how long YT takes to process it can vary but i've normally got 4k finished processing within an hr, if one of my vids took more than a couple of hrs to process i would think there was a problem with either the vid or YT.

& yeah @Former user uploading & processing will be separate actions, upload will depend on your connection to the net & YT. & processing will depend on YT doing it's thing with that uploaded file 🤷‍♂️

I too have Super fast fibre broadband, hard to know tho what the true upload speed is, i have Full Fibre Max 100, for the extra £10 a month I might contact EE & try Full Fibre Max 500 one day just out of curiousity, one day maybe, 🤷‍♂️😏

my internet says

but Telstra which measures to Australia, the other side of the world https://speedtest.telstra.com/

Ookla to Nottingham that isn't far from me https://www.speedtest.net/result/13140721473

& Fast measures to London, again not too far from me, not the other side of the world anyway 😂https://fast.com/#

It's all fast enough for me anyway,

You say 'I always upload my videos in 4K HEVC', have you tried uploading AVC to see if there's any difference?