Alternatives for basic editing?

goran-g wrote on 4/28/2017, 12:53 AM

I'm doing only the basic editing for my videos, which is just cutting videos on a specific part and connecting videos to each other. These videos are usually very long (30+ mins, up to 4 hours) and the time I have to render them is very short.

Do I have some alternatives here or could I tweak some options in Vegas to increase the rendering speed without affecting the video?

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NickHope wrote on 4/28/2017, 1:20 AM

What is the format of your source media and how was it created?

What is the destination format/purpose?

What version of Vegas do you have?

goran-g wrote on 4/28/2017, 5:59 AM

Recorded in Open Broadcast Software at 60 FPS 720p in .mp4.

Output is .mp4 720p 60 FPS.

I'm using Vegas Pro 14.

Video_flaneur wrote on 4/28/2017, 7:21 AM

Sony's PlayMemories Home is a free media file organiser that will perform basic trimming and combining of videos. This may do what you are after.

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NickHope wrote on 4/28/2017, 7:51 AM

There's not a lot you can do in Vegas to increase the rendering speed without affecting the video. That format will not smart render. It will recompress, which takes time and loses quality.

John_Cline wrote on 4/28/2017, 8:06 AM

VideoReDo can easily do frame-accurate cuts on MP4 video with no rendering (except for a few frames around the cuts unless you cut on the nearest I-frame.) It works quite well.

Musicvid wrote on 4/28/2017, 9:45 AM

+1 VideoRedo

PeterDuke wrote on 4/28/2017, 9:27 PM

I use Videoredo quite often for trimming and removing advertisements (commercials) from recorded TV programs, which is what it was primarily designed to do. I also use it to re-wrap video into a different container, such as transport stream to program stream. It can also blow fluff out of the file to help with audio-out-of-sync issues that show up with some players.

You can also join compatible files in Videoredo but the workflow doesn't match my brain.😕 Maybe I just haven't put in the effort to learn how to do it properly, since I don't need to do it often.

PeterDuke wrote on 4/28/2017, 9:54 PM

Sony's PlayMemories Home is a free media file organiser that will perform basic trimming and combining of videos. This may do what you are after.


You may need an appropriate still or movie Sony camera to install or use the software or it may only work with Sony videos. It is quite a while since I installed or used it. Then again I may be confused with its predecessor, PMB (Picture Movie Browser).

It is also good for transferring AVCHD files from Sony camera SD card to computer. All files are renamed to shooting date and time, which I find useful. Long shoots, where the video has been cut into 2GB chunks (or less for the last chunk) to comply with the limitations of the file system, are concatenated into a single file. I know that this doesn't work with Panasonic SD cards, unfortunately.

goran-g wrote on 4/29/2017, 4:38 AM

Thank you all for the suggestions.

 

VideoReDo is very sensitive and crashes a lot. I will try to get it to work some more.

Mp4 Splitter/Joiner can't do frame perfect cuts because it skips a lot of frames in preview.

astar wrote on 4/30/2017, 2:21 PM

For really basic editing, you could just use FFMPEG.

Set the in and out points of the main footage and do a copy to a new file. Then concatenate files together using another command to a resulting file format you want.

If you want to do it all in Vegas, record in xdcam. Then make the basic edit changes to the footage, and render out to the same xdcam profile. You will get smart-render on that material with only renders for transitions or CG overlay segments. I believe one of the XAVC modes smart-renders too. The thing with smart render is that one clip length effect will cause all footage to be rendered.

 

john_dennis wrote on 4/30/2017, 2:32 PM

"I believe one of the XAVC modes smart-renders..."

XAVC Intra. Bring lots of disk.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/no-recompression-required--97786/#ca594962

goran-g wrote on 5/3/2017, 10:38 AM

@John_Cline @PeterDuke @Musicvid I gave VideoReDo another chance, it works perfectly, guess the first crash was just an unlucky coincidence. Thank you for suggesting it.

@astar I am using FFMPEG but I'm cutting and joining videos too often and I have to do it with frame perfect precision, that's why FFMPEG wouldn't work out for me. Thank you anyway.