There seems just as many complaints about FCP's stability on Apple's forums as there are about Vegas' stability on Magix' forums (Vegas actually runs great on my machines).

 

Doesn't that strike you as concerning considering that FCP is designed by Apple for Apple computers specifically?

There seems just as many complaints about FCP's stability on Apple's forums as there are about Vegas' stability on Magix' forums (Vegas actually runs great on my machines).

 

Doesn't that strike you as concerning considering that FCP is designed by Apple for Apple computers specifically?

Not sure why that should matter considering how cheap Mac Minis are and how well FCP will run, even on a base spec Mac Mini.

The fact that it's Apple-only is non-factor, and that's a pretty hilarious comment considering VEGAS products are Windows-only.

 

The fact that it's Apple-only is non-factor, and that's a pretty hilarious comment considering VEGAS products are Windows-only.

Is that a fair comparison? Vegas doesn't make Windows and Microsoft doesn't make Vegas.

There seems just as many complaints about FCP's stability on Apple's forums as there are about Vegas' stability on Magix' forums (Vegas actually runs great on my machines).

Doesn't that strike you as concerning considering that FCP is designed by Apple for Apple computers specifically?

Yes! Although, self-selected posts have no statistical-significance, so I have no idea how prevalent these issues really are. The number of negative reviews were unexpected.

I was just pleasantly surprised how nice the upgraded iMovie was to use—so, "effortless." It's too bad iMovie is limited to a single video-track and doesn't accept third-party plug-ins. It gets high marks (from me, at least) for a very elegant, simple UI-design and is uber-easy to use.

On a related note, I've been very pleased with Apple Logic's stability over the last five years or so; crashes are extremely rare. It's just so capable, I sometimes get lost in the more complex routing tasks which some jobs require.

And to its credit, my install of VMS 17 has been extremely stable as well; I just have issues with Windows' usability. Sometime last week, I put my laptop to sleep (by closing the lid) with Vegas still running, when I opened the lid days later, Windows successfully woke up and Vegas was still playing back its timeline-loop flawlessly!

... when I opened the lid days later, Windows successfully woke up and Vegas was still playing back its timeline-loop flawlessly!

And VMS7 is so clever, it probably finished the edit for you while the computer was in sleep mode - you know, 'sleep editing'.

For "me", I have no interest in iMovie, FCX or Mac computers. I think any editor could work "effortlessly" if it were only limited to one track. Think Windows Movie Maker.... as for UI, it's subjective. Then there is the cost of getting (even used) an Apple computer to run iMovie. And as far as I know, people have more than a video editor on their computer.

Stability in Windows comes down to a lot of things. Windows itself, the infinite variable of hardware and software installed on a users computer, maintenance of that computer, and yes, the software itself could be faulty. But in the Apple world, they control everything. So, there shouldn't be any stability issues. At least that is the claim for Apple users....

Hi guys, this is a the Vegas Movie Studio forum so talking about iMovie, FCP is rather off topic. I was going to close the thread but instead I'll move it to the Off Topic section.

"The fact that it's Apple-only is non-factor, and that's a pretty hilarious comment considering VEGAS products are windows-only."

Windows computers can have multitudes of configurations, video cards from various manufacturers, soundcards from $10 up to $100 of dollars, different motherboards, etc. Apple computers are very specific configs, you might have a choice of 2 video cards and how much memory, so it should be easier to design software for these very specific configs. Windows software cannot anticipate the different configs so is should be more prone to stabitlity issues as can be shown on this forum where some people run Vegas with no issues while others can't even get it to boot. That is my point, Apple controls every aspect of its computers and software, stability should not be an issue.

Vegas MSP was a niche product that was using up tons of development resources, but only brought in $90 a pop.

It is not an entry level program, marketing notwithstanding, and caused a lot of complaints because most people didn't understand it. Vegas MSP17 will have its place on the wall of legendary software as being a budget alternative to flagship NLEs, and a worthy one.

Hi guys, this is a the Vegas Movie Studio forum so talking about iMovie, FCP is rather off topic. I was going to close the thread but instead I'll move it to the Off Topic section.

Right! It is off-topic! Sorry about that, and thanks for moving it rather than closing it. I still think it's a worthy discussion for those still on the fence whether or not to upgrade to Vegas Pro or to consider other options.

I was just smitten with the new iMovie upgrade and made me seriously reconsider FCP. I'll probably end up buying/using both: Vegas Pro and FCP. You guys probably think I'm nuts by now, but I just love machines, and having a fast PC-laptop to run Vegas Pro (in addition to all of my maOS machines) is just fine by me. Plus, the fact that I just learned of B+H's no-computer-return-policy, which kind of sealed the deal.

So, I'll be upgrading to Vegas Pro soon regardless. I was hoping they'd rotate the bundled FX after the last sale-deadline, but it's still the same—actually, less: In addition to the free upgrade to VP19, you also still get NewBlue Elements 3 Overlay (which I love!), but they substituted the Boris Stylize Unit with the "free" Particles standalone (which is free anyway).

I'll have Vegas Pro to edit stuff right now (since the learning curve was so short), and be able play with all my new Continuum plug-ins for which I just bought a one-month subscription, then also buy Apple Final Cut Pro. I can take my time learning FCP since I'll still have Vegas running on my new laptop and on my ingest-workstation.

... when I opened the lid days later, Windows successfully woke up and Vegas was still playing back its timeline-loop flawlessly!

And VMS7 is so clever, it probably finished the edit for you while the computer was in sleep mode - you know, 'sleep editing'.

Yeah—pretty cool, right? Vegas' stability on my machines has been truly impressive—kudos to the Vegas team! Very pleased with Vegas; just not so happy with Windows.