Best template to render

riu wrote on 2/5/2020, 5:30 AM

Hi, I have some videos recorded with an action camera.


To render them with the highest quality regardless of file size, is this option correct or do you recommend another one?

These are mediainfo data:

 


Format                      : MPEG-4
Format profile              : QuickTime
Codec ID                    : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                   : 4.14 GiB
Duration                    : 38 min 49 s
Overall bit rate            : 15.3 Mb/s
Writing application         : Lavf55.19.104

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L4.1
Format settings             : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, Reference  : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP        : M=1, N=15
Codec ID                    : avc1
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                    : 38 min 49 s
Bit rate                    : 14.7 Mb/s
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 30.000 FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.237
Stream size                 : 4.00 GiB (97%)
Language                    : English
Codec configuration box     : avcC

Audio
ID                          : 2
Format                      : PCM
Format settings             : Little / Signed
Codec ID                    : sowt
Duration                    : 38 min 49 s
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 512 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 1 channel
Sampling rate               : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Stream size                 : 142 MiB (3%)
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Alternate group             : 1

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rraud wrote on 2/5/2020, 9:16 AM

"Highest quality regardless of file size" usually means an uncompressed 'Video for Windows'. AVI, The rendered file will be huge though. There are other so-called "lossless" encoders that render (AVIs) that render smaller files with 'uncompressed' quality like the Magic YUV. HOS and Voukoder have "lossless" options that are very good.

Musicvid wrote on 2/5/2020, 9:39 AM

If you want a video that is both deliverable and playable (you didn't say!), as opposed to a digital intermediate which is intended for neither, then your settings are just fine.

john_dennis wrote on 2/5/2020, 11:18 AM

I don't have anything against the Sony AVC/MVC render template, but you have the option to use a higher target bit rate than the default if you think you need it.

riu wrote on 2/6/2020, 5:58 AM

It is a video to play only on my computer, it is not for the web.

Could someone put me a capture of a template with the highest quality for me?

Would be a great help.

fr0sty wrote on 2/6/2020, 8:38 PM

If I were storing a video for playback just on my computer, I'd double the bitrate just to be safe, but other than that, you should be good with those settings.

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Musicvid wrote on 2/6/2020, 8:44 PM

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.237

16 Mbps is more than enough. BPP is very healthy.

3POINT wrote on 2/7/2020, 1:22 AM

Even more important for your high quality render, besides the bitrate, is that you match the frame rate of your rendertemplate to that of your source, which ist exactly 30,000 Fps and not 29,970 Fps (which is also called 30p as in the standard AVC render template). Since your footage has a bitrate of 14,7 Mbps, I agree with Musicvid that 16 Mbps is more than enough.

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riu wrote on 2/7/2020, 5:15 AM

Thank you for helping me, I will use the template offered by 3POINT.
I have some videos that I am going to render and I would like to ask you for help again.

As the others are for my computer only and I want the highest quality regardless of the final file size.

This is the mediainfo:

Format                      : MPEG-PS
File size                   : 885 MiB
Duration                    : 14 min 59 s
Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
Overall bit rate            : 8 254 kb/s

Video
ID                          : 224 (0xE0)
Format                      : MPEG Video
Format version              : Version 2
Format profile              : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP       : No
Format settings, Matrix     : Default
Format settings, GOP        : N=15
Duration                    : 14 min 58 s
Bit rate mode               : Variable
Bit rate                    : 7 962 kb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 9 800 kb/s
Width                       : 720 pixels
Height                      : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 4:3
Frame rate                  : 25.000 FPS
Standard                    : PAL
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Compression mode            : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.768
Time code of first frame    : 00:00:00:00
Time code source            : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed            : Open
Stream size                 : 853 MiB (96%)

Audio
ID                          : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format                      : AC-3
Format/Info                 : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name             : Dolby Digital
Muxing mode                 : DVD-Video
Duration                    : 14 min 59 s
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel layout              : L R
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                  : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode            : Lossy
Delay relative to video     : -40 ms
Stream size                 : 13.7 MiB (2%)
Service kind                : Complete Main

riu wrote on 2/9/2020, 6:59 AM

My knowledge says that this is a correct template, but possibly I am wrong.

Do you think I need a better template for a video that I want to have the highest quality?

 

Thank you

rraud wrote on 2/9/2020, 8:58 AM

That template is for SD (standard def) According to the first post MediaInfo, the original file is 1920x1080 you want the basically the same.

john_dennis wrote on 2/9/2020, 9:21 AM

Download Render Quality Metrics from Wayne Waag's site.

Run test renders with all the encoders at your disposal with your content.

Rank them based on the numerical values from your tests.

Rank them based on how they play and look on your equipment.

While you're waiting for the tests to run, read these sites.

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