Can you please help me choose the best render setting for my film!?

daniel-t2081 wrote on 12/15/2019, 6:47 AM

Hey guys! I just finished my documentary about cycling across America, using Sony Vegas Pro 17. Most of the film was shot with a GoPro, 4k, at 60 fps.

I rendered a test version in AVC/MVC mode, 1920x1080 at 30 fps, and I am seeing a lot of "ghosting", where it almost looks blurry.

This film is going to be show in film festivals, and hopefully online streaming platforms as well. What FORMAT and TEMPLATE should I render this in? Thank you so much for your help!

 

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Motherboard: Asus rog strix x470-f gaming

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Processor: Ryzen 7 2700x

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j-v wrote on 12/15/2019, 6:54 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

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Marco. wrote on 12/15/2019, 6:57 AM

First of all, if your footage is 60p and you'll render to 30p, you need to disable resampling. This avoids the ghosting.

Musicvid wrote on 12/15/2019, 9:22 AM

First of all, if your footage is 60p and you'll render to 30p, you need to disable resampling. This avoids the ghosting.

+1

Marco beat me to it because he gets up early.

FayFen wrote on 12/15/2019, 2:04 PM

I think your first render should be 4K at 60p, if this is your most footage.

After that you can go down hill, even just by converting your "master" with handbrake as each festival might have different spec for screening.

fifonik wrote on 12/15/2019, 3:01 PM

I think your first render should be 4K at 60p, if this is your most footage.

This would be my way to go. I'd render with the same resolution/framerate as your main sources. Format -- H264 in MP4 container. Encoder -- x264 (CPU) CRF18 through Voukoder.

Last changed by fifonik on 12/15/2019, 4:31 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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daniel-t2081 wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:04 PM

I think your first render should be 4K at 60p, if this is your most footage.

After that you can go down hill, even just by converting your "master" with handbrake as each festival might have different spec for screening.


THank you for your respone. As far as FORMAT and TEMPLATE, which would you choose? It was recorded with a Gopro Hero 6

daniel-t2081 wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:04 PM

First of all, if your footage is 60p and you'll render to 30p, you need to disable resampling. This avoids the ghosting.


Thanks. Any idea which Format and Template you would choose? It was recorded with a Gopro Hero 6.

j-v wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:14 PM

These you can try all 3 and look which one you like the most.

with these projectproperties

Last changed by j-v on 12/15/2019, 4:16 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

j-v wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:29 PM

Any idea which Format and Template you would choose? It was recorded with a Gopro Hero 6.

I gave you templates for FHD before your change of the message, but I don't know which template you used with that GOPro. My GOPro 7 can record 4K at AVC and HEVC.
So did you record FHD(2K) or UHD (4K) that will make a big difference for the rbest rendertemplate

 

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

fifonik wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:36 PM

@j-v OP would like to have 1080@30 fps at the end. Any particular reason to recommend 1080@60 fps? I understand rendering to straight to required format (1080@30) or to the best possible format (4K@60).

Camcorder: Panasonic X1500 + Panasonic X920 + GoPro Hero 11 Black

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5700X, RAM: G'Skill 32 GB DDR4@3200, Graphics card: MSI RX6600 8GB, SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ 1TB (NVMe, OS), HDD WD 4TB, HDD Toshiba 4TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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j-v wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:45 PM

@j-v OP would like to have 1080@30 fps at the end. Any particular reason to recommend 1080@60 fps? I understand rendering to straight to required format (1080@30) or to the best possible format (4K@60).

Ok , but he said it was only a test. Mostly you choose a template that's the best for your goal and if I read his goal?.......

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

fifonik wrote on 12/15/2019, 4:51 PM

Ah, I see. I thought the 1080@30 is required format.

Camcorder: Panasonic X1500 + Panasonic X920 + GoPro Hero 11 Black

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5700X, RAM: G'Skill 32 GB DDR4@3200, Graphics card: MSI RX6600 8GB, SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ 1TB (NVMe, OS), HDD WD 4TB, HDD Toshiba 4TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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