Crop without Zoom in VP14...is it possible?

wordman wrote on 3/22/2018, 3:11 PM

Hello All,

Some time back, I upgraded from VP10 to VP14. All was going well until I needed to crop a section of video while using VP14 and I noticed something had changed.

In VP10, I can use the Pan/Crop tool to crop a section of video, and on playback, I get the desired result, I see the cropped video and it appears as desired, without zooming to the cropped size first.

However...

In VP14, when I perform the same steps, what I see on playback is a zoom toward the cropped size from the initial size, which is NOT what I want. I need to simply crop a section of a clip to a size and see the cropped size without zooming to the cropped size.

So I did an experiment, VP10 on one computer, VP14 on another.

I used the same clip in both.

Opening the clip in both timelines, I Split the clip at the 5 second mark in each.

I selected the Pan/Crop tool in each, zoomed both to the desired size.

Exit Pan/Crop tool in each.

And now the results...

Playback from the beginning in VP10 yields the results I want: The first 5 seconds of the clip are shown at the cropped size without zooming to it. Just the cropped size.

Playback from the beginning in VP14 yields the results I don't want: The first 5 seconds of the clip are shown starting at the full size and then zooming to the cropped size. I don't want this.

Is there any way to get the Pan/Crop tool in VP14 to behave the way it did in VP10? This is really irritating.

Thanks in advance!

- wordman

 

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john_dennis wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:14 PM

I don’t know when or if the behavior ever changed, but...

place your cursor at the first point that you want the crop to be in effect. That crop will stay in effect until the next key frame or until the end of the clip.

I suspect you placed your crop key frame at the end of the clip. There is an implicit key frame at the default pan/crop at the start of each clip. That’s why it gradually changes from the default crop to your crop in the duration of the clip.

john_dennis wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:15 PM

Also, make sure you sync cursor.

wordman wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:22 PM

I don’t know when or if the behavior ever changed, but...

place your cursor at the first point that you want the crop to be in effect. That crop will stay in effect until the next key frame or until the end of the clip.

I suspect you placed your crop key frame at the end of the clip. There is an implicit key frame at the default pan/crop at the start of each clip. That’s why it gradually changes from the default crop to your crop in the duration of the clip.

John,

Thanks for the answer. The behavior certainly has changed, as my original post can attest. Yes, I left the cursor at the split at the five-second mark on each version and only VP14 zooms in.

All that out of the way, I tried it again in VP14, Splitting the clip at five seconds, this time, as per your suggestion, I made sure the cursor was at the beginning of the clip, and viola, I got the desired result.

I'm not sure why this was changed from VP10 to VP14, but at least I have something to go on.

Many thanks!

- wordman

john_dennis wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:28 PM

Good.

john_dennis wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:35 PM

I somehow missed the change.

wordman wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:48 PM

I somehow missed the change.


All I can tell you is that I can see the difference between VP10 and VP14. As stated in the original post, they behave differently. Weird.

OldSmoke wrote on 3/22/2018, 4:54 PM

I somehow missed the change.


All I can tell you is that I can see the difference between VP10 and VP14. As stated in the original post, they behave differently. Weird.

I seriously doubt that it has changed but as Denis mentioned, it could well be that in VP14 the sync to cursor button was enabled while in SVP10 it wasn't.

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Musicvid wrote on 3/22/2018, 5:12 PM

No one thinks you are making anything up. The are suggesting the DEFAULT CURSOR SETTING may be different. Even people with 20+ years of experience can miss that, but at least they know where to look.

wordman wrote on 3/22/2018, 8:02 PM

No one thinks you are making anything up. The are suggesting the DEFAULT CURSOR SETTING may be different. Even people with 20+ years of experience can miss that, but at least they know where to look.


Musicvid,

Your message and my clicking the "Tag as solution" button must have crossed in mid-air. Many thanks for your input!