Current state of Vegas Pro regarding SLI and multithreading ?

TTTT wrote on 6/14/2018, 11:51 AM

Can the current version of Vegas Pro benefit from:

- GPU SLI?

- CPU Multithreading

 

(Both at the same time? I mean, while encoding with GPU, probably CPU multithreading doesn't affect speed. While encoding? While editing? )

Are there evolutions expected in next version?

Thank you

Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 6/14/2018, 5:39 PM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/product-comparison/#productMenu

TTTT wrote on 6/15/2018, 4:11 AM

Thank you, however I don't see how this link helps reply the question. Could you be more precise please?

Last changed by TTTT on 6/15/2018, 4:11 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

fr0sty wrote on 6/15/2018, 4:14 AM

SLI isn't supported for video encoding as it doesn't work at the GPU level, it isn't a Vegas thing. Best way to take advantage of more than one GPU is to assign one to timeline rendering and let the other do the encoding. Vegas has always allowed you to specify the number of threads it uses, and its efficiency at doing so has been improving in recent builds.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2018, 8:25 AM

Thank you, however I don't see how this link helps reply the question. Could you be more precise please?

Yes, this time.

Vegas also supports NVENC and QSV.

GPU is kind of transitioning to legacy status in the big world. SLI is a nonplayer.

The link was provided to let you know that Vegas supports GPU, QSV, NVENC hardware, also HEVC. And multiple threads. Sorry if not "all" that information is in my link, or to the extent that it didnt resonate.

I'm certain @Oldsmoke will drop in with more detail.

TTTT wrote on 6/15/2018, 9:45 AM

What do you mean by "GPU is kind of transitioning to legacy status in the big world." ?
I thought NVENC, for instance, is using the GPU.

Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2018, 12:05 PM

NVENC is a dedicated hardware encoder in a select number of Nvidia graphics accelerators.

GPU assist (CUDA and similar) is older, much less efficient technology, and has been widely available for years.

Google is by far your best resource for general information. Vegas supports both with a limited range of codecs!

TTTT wrote on 6/15/2018, 1:08 PM

"NVENC is a dedicated hardware encoder in a select number of Nvidia graphics accelerators."

Which brings me to another question, if I get a better GPU card, NVENC will be faster right ?

About Google, yes I do researches, but there often comes a point where the answers I'm looking for are to precise or possibly too vague and answers found may be deprecated, or yet I may be searching with the wrong "topic-specific" keywords. In exemple, in this thread, no one still replied if it's worth improving both GPU and multi-core CPU (provided a constant workflow in Vegas). Though I sense like when you benefits from one you don't benefit from the other.

Last changed by TTTT on 6/15/2018, 1:09 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

Updated on 2022-01-18, some things may change

MAIN COMPUTER

System:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 2950x

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 Ti - Drivers on 2022-01-18: "Studio Drivers" 30.0.15.1109, 2021-12-29

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB

Drives (for performance) : Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2 TB + Samsung 970 Pro nVME 1 TB

Drive (for storage) : Western Digital Gold 12 TB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swap slots

MB: AsRock X399 Taichi

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitors: 3

Monitor used as colour reference: Asus ProArt PA329 (UHD 4K)

Secondary monitor: BenQ (UHD 4K) monitor that was supposed to have accurate colours, but after they replaced it twice, it looks like a different series and colours aren't that good.

Third monitor: Old Sony TV (Full HD) (approx. 10 years old)

Extra soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX

Extra soundcard (usually off): M-Audio Air 192|14

Vegas Related Software

Current version of Vegas Pro : 19.0 (Build 458)

Ignite Pro (full plug-in suite), NeatVideo

SECONDARY COMPUTER (often used as rendering maching)

CPU: Intel i7 6700k

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 980

RAM: 32 GB

Drive (for OS): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Drive (for storage): Westen Digital Black 6 TB (likely an "old" one)

Drive (for performance): Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB

Extra drives (for archives) : 4x SATA "cold" swipe slot

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 19043.1466

Monitor: LG Flatron E2342

Vegas Related Software

(Same as for main computer)

 

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2018, 5:42 PM

I don't have this kind of information for you.

Since this isn't a Vegas-specific support issue, feel free to post your discussion in the Off Topic area, keeping in mind that the results from no two individual consumer systems will be the same.

fr0sty wrote on 6/15/2018, 5:42 PM

NVENC has various version across 3 different generations of cards, so yes, you'll see improvement in speed, but don't expect it to be dramatic. I still say buy a 10 series GTX card... but also keep an eye on what AMD has going on, see if you can find some benchmarks around here (I'm sure some have done some by now) of their tech to see if you can gain speed while saving cash. There may be other cards that give more bang for the buck vs. nvidia.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Musicvid wrote on 6/15/2018, 9:44 PM

frosty, I didn't think AMD VCE is available yet in Vegas?

OldSmoke wrote on 6/16/2018, 1:39 AM

frosty, I didn't think AMD VCE is available yet in Vegas?

Yes it is :-) and it’s fast. I personally can recommend buying a Fury X or Vega card but I believe one user reported that NeatVideo does not yet support the Vega series.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

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Musicvid wrote on 6/16/2018, 8:08 AM

Thanks, OldSmoke.