Extremely Slow 4K Video Rendering Time

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/3/2018, 10:33 PM

Good morning from Singapore,

I have the most powerful desktop computer in my home, with the following technical specifications.

5th Generation Intel Core i7 5820K Processor with Six Cores and Twelve Threads (eh now 8th generation already...)
MSI X-99A SLI Krait Edition Motherboard
32 GB DDR4 Memory/RAM
AMD Radeon HD6450 Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)
240 GB Solid State Disk (SSD)
Windows 10 Home Edition version 1803 (April 2018 Updates)

When I was still using Sony Movie Studio Platinum 13, rendering a 2-hour 4K video took more than 10 hours. I consider that very slow. Has it got something to do with my extremely low end GPU?

Thus, when I read that Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15 improves video rendering time by up to 2 times, I upgraded immediately.

Alas! To my extreme disappointment, video rendering time for Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15 is much worse compared to Sony Movie Studio Platinum 13. Rendering a 2-hour 4K video took more than 18 hours with the new Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15!!!!!!!!!!

Does that mean that present day computers cannot handle 8K videos at all?

Do I have to upgrade my processor+motherboard, or GPU?

Or something else is terribly wrong?

Please advise.

Thank you very much.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Republic of Singapore
4th September 2018 Tuesday 11:31 AM Singapore Time

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 9/3/2018, 10:43 PM

Most of the rendering speed gain would come from NVENC or INTEL QSV. It is unlikely that CPU or CUDA would be faster with a current version of Vegas.

Even if you upgrade some hardware, don't expect miracles.

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/3/2018, 10:59 PM

Most of the rendering speed gain would come from NVENC or INTEL QSV. It is unlikely that CPU or CUDA would be faster with a current version of Vegas.

Even if you upgrade some hardware, don't expect miracles.

Rendering 4K videos must be so low? At least/minimum 18 hours to render a 2-hour 4K video?

Musicvid wrote on 9/3/2018, 11:29 PM

With all due respect, it's arithmetic.

3840x2160x1800x8x3= 358,318,080,000 bits processed for one minute of 4K at 30 fps.

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/4/2018, 12:29 AM

With all due respect, it's arithmetic.

3840x2160x1800x8x3= 358,318,080,000 bits processed for one minute of 4K at 30 fps.

So there's nothing I can do to improve my 4K video rendering time?

If the video is 8K, then I would need to purchase a Cray Supercomputer to do the job?

EricLNZ wrote on 9/4/2018, 2:51 AM

Assuming the bits per minute are the same it doesn't explain why Teo-En-Ming finds it takes over 18 hours on VMS15 compared to over 10 hours on SMS13. Any ideas anyone?

Musicvid wrote on 9/4/2018, 8:02 AM

Assuming the bits per minute are the same it doesn't explain why Teo-En-Ming finds it takes over 18 hours on VMS15 compared to over 10 hours on SMS13. Any ideas anyone?

Yes, one approach is to rule out the differences in project, timeline, and hardware utilization between the two renders . This is a good place to start:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

j-v wrote on 9/4/2018, 1:11 PM

When you compare VMS 13 and VMS 15 you probably don't use the new possibilities.
What is the codec and preset you use to export 4 K video?
With me using the new possibilities of VMS 15 my renders go much faster than before.

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Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/5/2018, 10:59 PM

When you compare VMS 13 and VMS 15 you probably don't use the new possibilities.
What is the codec and preset you use to export 4 K video?
With me using the new possibilities of VMS 15 my renders go much faster than before.

Hi j-v,

Sorry for the late reply.

I am using MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4 > Internet 4K 2160p 25 fps to render my 4K videos.

But the thing is, I don't see the Intel QSV option on my home computer.

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/5/2018, 11:03 PM

As spoken earlier, I am using MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4 > Internet 4K 2160p 25 fps to render my 4K videos.

But I don't see the Intel QSV option on my home computer. The Intel QSV option that you see in the screenshot above is in my work/office computer.

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/5/2018, 11:14 PM

Oh dear! My Intel Core i7 5820K Extreme Edition processor with 6 cores and 12 threads on my home computer does not have Intel Quick Sync Video (QSV).

https://help.livestream.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002972167-How-Do-I-Know-if-My-Intel-Processor-Includes-Quick-Sync-

https://ark.intel.com/Search/FeatureFilter?productType=processors&QuickSyncVideo=true

Is it the reason why my 2-hour 4K videos took more than 18 hours to render?

 

Teo-En-Ming wrote on 9/5/2018, 11:22 PM

Post: CPU for Edius 8: 4790K or 5820K? (Quick Sync vs. 6 Cores)

Link: https://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35212

Kris: "Two CPUs keep popping to the top of my theoretical build:

4790K - 4 cores, with Quick Sync
5820K - 6 (slower) cores, no Quick Sync"

 

OH DEAR!!!!

chandan-prakash wrote on 9/7/2018, 3:55 PM

If the video is 8K, then I would need to purchase a Cray Supercomputer to do the job?

Lol...