Fixing Vegas Preview Lag - Anyone tried whether this take effect?

rock-c wrote on 3/26/2023, 10:09 PM

Hi, I see a lot of people making similar tutorials to get rid of Preview Lag in Vegas. Do you have any benchmarks to prove that which settings work? Thanks!

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RogerS wrote on 3/26/2023, 10:18 PM

Looks like a bunch of semi-random workarounds, not a proper tutorial.

Start with the cause of the lag, which is most likely your media. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Then depending on what it is you can re-encode it to a format VEGAS likes, create proxy files for it if it's just too difficult to decode, or switch decoders if the legacy AVC or HEVC one work better with this file type.

I'd stay out of internal preferences and not go crazy with dynamic ram preview which has diminishing returns.

rock-c wrote on 3/26/2023, 11:25 PM

@RogerS Is there a list of benchmark results of these settings for users to refer?

3POINT wrote on 3/26/2023, 11:45 PM

@rock-c What's the purpose of the swastika?

RogerS wrote on 3/26/2023, 11:49 PM

Is there a list of benchmark results of these settings for users to refer?

No, because it isn't meaningful. You have to start by understanding the *specific* problem with the project and system and then making fixes appropriately.

Creating proxy files will guarantee full speed playback but takes time to build and isn't necessary much of the time. There's nothing to benchmark- any computer in the last 15 years should be able to play 720p XDCAM at full speed.

3POINT wrote on 3/26/2023, 11:54 PM

@RogerS don't you have any questions about this swastikas?

RogerS wrote on 3/27/2023, 12:28 AM

don't you have any questions about this swastikas?

It doesn't seem related to VEGAS, so not really. If the user is Asian (Fu-Ji = Fuji?) it's a common Buddhist symbol with positive connotations. It's unlikely referring to the Nazi symbol as that points the opposite direction.

 

rock-c wrote on 3/27/2023, 12:50 AM

No, because it isn't meaningful. You have to start by understanding the *specific* problem with the project and system and then making fixes appropriately.

Creating proxy files will guarantee full speed playback but takes time to build and isn't necessary much of the time. There's nothing to benchmark- any computer in the last 15 years should be able to play 720p XDCAM at full speed.

@RogerS Hi, I think if there are some public projects as benchmarks of preferences & internal settings , that can help users understand which settings can fix preview lag. That is quite meaningful. Unfortunately I have not found these so far. I just found many similar video tutorials and am curious whether they actually worked.

@3POINT Hi, that's not a Nazi, I used it to draw attention to Vegas Preview Lag tutorials.

3POINT wrote on 3/27/2023, 12:53 AM

@rock-c absolutely no need to do that, it's working either opposite. (not to everybody as it seems).

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/27/2023, 12:54 AM

It's VEGAS Forum, not a tempel.
Hate all these symbols!

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RogerS wrote on 3/27/2023, 12:55 AM

I don't think it's easy to do a worthwhile benchmark as there are too many variables and not universal as hardware and media must be specified or the settings are not meaningful. I'd say most of the tutorials are worthless so I'd ignore them.

For what benchmarks can do, see my signature for two.
Here's an example of testing of ram usage in VEGAS:

Again, start with testing a specific system and specific media with specific settings to make any conclusions.

rock-c wrote on 3/27/2023, 1:14 AM

@3POINT @Yelandkeil Hi, sorry, I try to use it to make the post stand out, like this:


Well, obviously I screwed up.

I'd say most of the tutorials are worthless so I'd ignore them.

@RogerS Depressed to hear this, I've been looking for some useful tutorials on optimizing preview lag.

RogerS wrote on 3/27/2023, 1:53 AM

What is your CPU and GPU?
What is the media? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/27/2023, 2:50 AM

@3POINT @Yelandkeil Hi, sorry, I try to use it to make the post stand out, like this:


Well, obviously I screwed up.

I'd say most of the tutorials are worthless so I'd ignore them.

@RogerS Depressed to hear this, I've been looking for some useful tutorials on optimizing preview lag.

Then remove it please.
An interesting thread always depends on its content and idea, nothing else.
We are not Influencers in the YT whose purpose are mostly making money instead of teaching you anything - else you have plenty time to consume. @RogerS's comment is too tender.

For your question: invest so much as you can and study VEGAS to adjust it fit for your HW.

 

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- Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GF1 850W 
- ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11PRO; 512GB/sys, 2TB/data 
- G.SKILL F4-3200C16Q-64GFX 
- AMD Ryzen9 5950x + LiquidFreezer II-360 
- XFX Speedster-MERC319-RX6900XT <-AdrenalinEdition 26.3.1
Samsung 2xLU28R55 HDR10 (300CD/m², 1499Nits/peak) ->2xDPort
ROCCAT Kave 5.1Headset/Mic ->Analog (AAFOptimusPack 6.0.9403.1)
LG DSP7 Surround 5.1Soundbar ->TOSLINK

Lumix DC-GH6/5s: HLG4k60p/30p, AWB, shutter=125, ISO=auto (250 - 6400)
DJI Mini 4 Pro: HLG4k60p, AWB, shutter=auto, ISO=auto
HERO5: ProtuneFlat2.7k60pLinear, WB=4800K, Shutter=auto, ISO=800

Win11Pro: 25H2-26200.8037; Direct3D API = 12.2
VEGASPro23 + XMediaRecode/Handbrake + DVDArchi7 
AcidPro10 + SoundForgePro14.0.065 + SpectraLayersPro7 
K-LitecodecPack19.5.0 (MPC Video Renderer for HDR10 Playback on PC) 

EricLNZ wrote on 3/27/2023, 2:56 AM

I've removed the symbols. Irrespective of what they represented they were irritating and annoying and possibly put off some forum members from reading the post.

3POINT wrote on 3/27/2023, 3:06 AM

It gave me a good insight in the viewpoints of some forummembers.

Musicvid wrote on 3/27/2023, 3:28 PM

I made this 4k p60 benchmark to compare preview / player relative frame rates. It's free; let me know if it helps you. I suggest curtailing all background operations and disconnecting internet during testing.

To use, focus on the bullseye at 1 o'clock. @rock-c

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12ULkIXtmmySb0O_I9lvKVh0_RlyNI9Ne&authuser=musicvid%40gmail.com&usp=drive_fs

@EricLNZ Thank you. The emoji are indeed, VERY ANNOYING, and should be disabled in Titles COMPLETELY! Despite the opinions of some, THIS IS NOT SOCIAL MEDIA, and certain users have become invasive, presumptuous, and demanding of those here who simply do not deserve the assault! @VEGASDerek

 

rock-c wrote on 3/28/2023, 8:25 AM

What is your CPU and GPU?
What is the media? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I have quite a few different computers and quite a few different footages (including personal and company), so I am looking for some general optimization settings, regardless of hardware and footages.

RogerS wrote on 3/28/2023, 8:56 AM

What is your CPU and GPU?
What is the media? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I have quite a few different computers and quite a few different footages (including personal and company), so I am looking for some general optimization settings, regardless of hardware and footages.

There are no general optimization settings- keep VEGAS on the defaults unless you have a reason to change them.