How to burn 1080p 60p blu-ray?

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 1:16 PM

How to burn 1080p 60 progressive blu-ray disc from Vegas Pro 18.0?

I can find only 1080i 60 interlaced options, but I want to make it 1080p 60 progressive.

I recorded the video at 4k60p by GoPro HERO 8. It is a tennis match that my son played. HERO 8 has "Linear" lens, but it is still quite wide, so I cropped out a bit and wanted to make a nice 1080 60p video. Interlaced option is bad, because it makes lines and net flicker like crazy, it must be progressive and I want to make it 60 fps to keep the smooth motion.

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Former user wrote on 10/6/2021, 1:25 PM

Bluray format only supports 1080p at 24fps. Otherwise it is 1080i.

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 1:40 PM

DougT,

I used my CyberLink PowerDirector 365 to burn Blu-Ray at 1080p 60fps. It plays on Xbox One just fine.

I want to do the same thing with Vegas Pro 18.0.

J-Toresen wrote on 10/6/2021, 1:46 PM

From Wikipedia:

Originally, BD-ROMs stored video up to 1920×1080 pixel resolution at up to 60 (59.94) fields per second. Currently, with UHD BD-ROM, videos can be stored at a maximum of 3840×2160 pixel resolution at up to 60 (59.94) frames per second, progressively scanned. While most current Blu-ray players and recorders can read and write 1920×1080 video at the full 59.94p and 50p progressive format, new players for the UHD specifications will be able to read at 3840×2160 video at either 59.94p and 50p formats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

Jøran

Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 1:56 PM

DougT,

I used my CyberLink PowerDirector 365 to burn Blu-Ray at 1080p 60fps. It plays on Xbox One just fine.

I want to do the same thing with Vegas Pro 18.0.

If you are burning HD BluRay with Power Director, and not UHD BluRay, that means it is probably using a hack called Soft Telecine.

Basically, the 60p source is reflagged as 60i, and it will play fine..

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 2:02 PM

Musicvid,

I believe that it is 1080p 60 progressive since there is no flickering and motion is smooth.

It is an option in menu, there is no hacking on my side, just a regular menu option when you go to Produce tab to burn a blu-ray disc.

Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 2:58 PM

I believe that it is 1080p 60 progressive since there is no flickering and motion is smooth.

That is no indication whatsoever of its encoding or flags. That it plays indicates it is flagged, but not necessarily encoded to spec.

Then I would guess it is UHD BluRay (which includes HD 1080 60p), or Soft Telecine. I suspect in your case it is the latter, but I don't have Power Director to check for you.

60p is not part of the HD BluRay spec, since it only accepts HDV or AVCHD source formats.

High-definition (HD) video may be stored on Blu-ray Discs with up to 1920×1080 pixel resolution, at 24 progressive or 50/60 interlaced frames per second. DVD-Video discs were limited to a maximum resolution of 480i (NTSC, 720×480 pixels) or 576i (PAL, 720×576 pixels).[7] Besides these hardware specifications, Blu-ray is associated with a set of multimedia formats.

Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 3:27 PM

Here's an example o usingf soft telecine in making "29.97i" DVD movies from 24p film transfers, a very common application. Hard telecine is almost dead in the water.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/rendering-for-dvd-architect--123507/#ca769215

 

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 3:58 PM

Musicvid,

Honestly, I do not care about any of that.

I am only interested if anyone here knows how to burn 1080p 60fps progressive video on a Blu-Ray disc directly from Vegas Pro 18.0.

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 5:43 PM

Bellow is the screenshot from Power Director where I select 1080p 60fps option to burn a Blu-Ray disc.

Disc plays in Xbox One.

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 5:46 PM

I started working in Vegas Pro only because of my son, who edits his video game clips, and he swears by it.

I still have Power Director 365 subscription and seems like I will stick with it if Vegas Pro cannot do something as simple as burn 1080p 60fps Blu-Ray disc.

Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 9:49 PM

Then by all means stick with what works for you, and best of luck going forward.

fr0sty wrote on 10/6/2021, 10:17 PM

The official blu-ray spec does not support 1080p60. So, while you might be able to burn 1080p60 video to a blu-ray disc, and while SOME players might ignore the blu-ray spec and play it anyway, there will always be thousands of players out there that absolutely refuse to play your disc unless it is 1080p24, 1080i, or 720p60.

As for using VEGAS to burn it, VEGAS is a video editing app, not a blu-ray authoring app. You'll need something like TMPG authoring works to do that, but even it might try to force you to use 24p because again, the blu-ray spec doesn't support 1080p60.

If you only care about it being able to play in an Xbox or PlayStation, you can use any burner app, like CD burner XP, to just burn a 1080p60 mp4 file to the disc... just don't be surprised if you take it to a friend's house and their player acts like you didn't even put a disc in.

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Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 10:36 PM

frosty, I believe his discs are soft-telecined, and so may play on a variety of players.

I also believe the OP when he states,

Honestly, I do not care about any of that.

citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 11:01 PM

Interlaced video does not work well because I am recording tennis matches and horizontal lines on the court and net as it is moved by wind, flicker badly no matter what since camera is minutely moved by the wind. Only progressive scan eliminates the issue.

Dropping from 60p to 24p makes a big difference, especially in how the ball looks, players motion as well, since tennis players often move swiftly side to side and swing a racquet fast.

So the solution for me is to record at 1080p 60fps. It plays really nicely on Xbox One and that's all I need.

I do not plan on showing the videos anywhere else except at home.
My boys play solid tennis and I occasionally record a match and then save only the good ones where they win.
They cannot stomach watching the match that they lost, and neither can I.
Once I burned a disc for the opponent, as he asked for it, and I made it 24p, just to make sure that he would be able to watch it.

PowerDirector 365 issues a warning when I select the 1080p 60fps option saying that it will not play on every BD player. I do not care, since it plays on our Xbox One and it is the best quality video that I can produce.

Musicvid wrote on 10/6/2021, 11:13 PM

PowerDirector 365 issues a warning when I select the 1080p 60fps option saying that it will not play on every BD player.

oh.

fr0sty wrote on 10/6/2021, 11:27 PM

When giving discs to others, I'd recommend dropping the resolution to 720p, that way you can burn at 60 frames per second, and the disc will still play on their players. The official Blu-Ray spec does support 720p60. Other than that, you can burn your 1080p MP4s directly to disc using any burner software, and your Xbox should play it ok. Both Xboxes and PlayStations are capable of playing mp4 files burned to the disc without being properly authored as a BD or DVD.

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citrusbangus wrote on 10/6/2021, 11:50 PM

fr0sty,

Thank you for practical advice.

I did not know that Xbox would play MP4s burned to the disc, and I will certainly try that.

 

Musicvid,

here is the warning for you:

fr0sty wrote on 10/7/2021, 1:35 AM

That warning is basically just saying the same thing we have, letting you know the framerate is out of spec.

I haven't tested mp4s burned straight to disc in an xbox, but i know that ps4 and ps5 can read them from a usb stick, so theoretically there's nothing stopping them from reading them from a disc as well.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

gary-rebholz wrote on 10/7/2021, 11:07 AM

Getting on a public forum and bashing VEGAS Pro because it won't do something that is against the official spec seems sort of...harsh. Especially when burning those discs from the timeline is a perk of the software which has a main function far beyond burning Blu-rays.

But I suppose that could just be me getting defensive. Ha!

fr0sty wrote on 10/7/2021, 12:37 PM

Hmm... all this time I was complaining about my Honda Civic not being able to cook me breakfast, I was out of line? Who woulda thunk it.... 😅

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Musicvid wrote on 10/7/2021, 1:09 PM

Getting on a public forum and bashing VEGAS Pro because it won't do something that is against the official spec seems sort of...harsh. Especially when burning those discs from the timeline is a perk of the software which has a main function far beyond burning Blu-rays.

Thanks for saying it and allowing me to unbite my tongue, Gary.

But I suppose that could just be me getting defensive. Ha!

No,you weren't.

citrusbangus wrote on 10/7/2021, 1:15 PM

gary-rebholz,

I asked the question because I had a need to do it. I assumed that burning 1080p 60fps blu-ray disc was a regular thing to do, and that I did not know how to set it up, not that it was a feature never meant to be.

I did not come here to bash Vegas Pro.

gary-rebholz wrote on 10/7/2021, 1:58 PM

I may have misinterpreted,

...if Vegas Pro cannot do something as simple as burn 1080p 60fps Blu-Ray disc.

But it's OK. I didn't mean to make a case out of it. I hope you find an acceptable solution to your need. Good luck!