I got a 1 hour video with 29.97 clips, but gameplay is 30fps

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/18/2017, 6:24 PM

I dunno what to do, I can't render and I am just tired of this, is there a way to fix it? please? this is torture

I also have many legacy and non-legacy text on my project, they are all 30fps, I was thinking on rendering my 30fps video to 29.97fps, but I don't think it will work with these texts and I don't think that if I replace it, it will be synced properly in their original spots

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Musicvid wrote on 11/18/2017, 6:48 PM

In cases like yours, we often recommend the forum Search feature for basic guidance, as well as gaining a perspective on known issues. For instance, my Search brought up this information:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-15-magix-avc-aac-codec-not-supporting-60-fps--108638/#ca670351

Starting multiple threads on the same topic will not gain you more attention here

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/18/2017, 7:12 PM

In cases like yours, we often recommend the forum Search feature for basic guidance, as well as gaining a perspective on known issues.

I just think these things are hard to explain and my search wouldn't pop them up :/ (I did try the first time I asked a question here but nothing aside disabling gpu acceleration)

For instance, my Search brought up this information:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-15-magix-avc-aac-codec-not-supporting-60-fps--108638/#ca670351

thanks, though, I don't know if that will solve the issue since the issue is not being able to render 30fps, the issue is having on the project 30fps videos and 29.97 fps videos

I'll just try what it said about letting vegas use the frame rate my source video gave "allow source to adjust frame size"
If it doesn't work, I'll just take I don't know how long rendering the video and setting everything where it's supposed to be, or try and see if adobe can render it

Starting multiple threads on the same topic will not gain you more attention here

If I was trying to get attention, I wouldn't try and do it by being annoying :/....... I would try and be helpful like you and other guys, but I am not smart so well, I just come here to ask questions and recently just for this same issue (but everytime just different, since the problem it's just different, like before I didn't know it was a fps thing and I could even be wrong now). sorry if I was being annoying, I am not the best when it comes to customer support and help forums

Musicvid wrote on 11/18/2017, 8:00 PM

I am not the best when it comes to customer support and help forums

But you will be, once you have mastered Search Terms.

Look at responses by @vkmast, Kinvermark, and Nick Hope, to see how good they are at finding information, just by typing a couple of words into the Search box at the top right corner of the forum window.

They are all much better at this than I am, I promise.

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/18/2017, 9:49 PM

I am not the best when it comes to customer support and help forums

But you will be, once you have mastered Search Terms.

Look at responses by @vkmast, Kinvermark, and Nick Hope, to see how good they are at finding information, just by typing a couple of words into the Search box at the top right corner of the forum window.

They are all much better at this than I am, I promise.

I am good at searching stuff up, I guess where I struggle is explaining stuff, making stuff into simple words (specially when I am going way too fast, making things as fast as I can), and in this case I couldn't find out what caused the issue by myself (you see, before, I didn't know that it was because of frame rate, nor it was because of a clip, nor that it wasn't because of lag, at first, I thought my computer was not powerful enough), or maybe my problem is just not using this as last resort but first resort (should be used as last, so you know I find out everything about the issue myself)

I can also blame google because he bullies me for being bilingual :))))))))))))))))))))) (tip:never enter every language you know, just the one you mostly use to search stuff)
Thanks, it's working now! 94%!!!!! now all that's left it's seeing it chose 20fps for some reason and that I know have to start over and render it with adobe :) (nah, it can't happen, minimun is 29.97, I doubt any of my clips went below that, I just wonder now why did that work, did it needed 30fps? I wish there was a way to learn all this stuff in a technical way without going into articles who tell you a lot of stuff that you didn't really asked for)

Edit:It finished, I am crying right now (and laughing madly and making weird noises, this is just beautiful :") )

NickHope wrote on 11/18/2017, 10:44 PM

The site search is very simplistic, and massively prioritizes the heading of the post, so often throws up very old posts. I do nearly all my searching of this site in Google by starting with site:www.vegascreativesoftware.info so the search is limited to this domain. I then very often then limit the search to the last year or whatever using the option under the tools menu.

@SimonGhoul If you plan on doing much work with Vegas, I think time spent on some tutorials would be time well spent.

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/18/2017, 11:30 PM

If you plan on doing much work with Vegas, I think time spent on some tutorials would be time well spent.

I only have problems with bugs though

Musicvid wrote on 11/19/2017, 9:16 AM

Really?

I've been here fifteen years and I search for something new almost every day.

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/20/2017, 6:09 PM

Really?

I've been here fifteen years and I search for something new almost every day.

Yeah, I can figure out the other stuff already or I already watched tutorials, maybe there's something else I can learn bug I dunno, it's just simple mate

Only things I can't guess nor learn easily are settings, rendering, recording stuff and stuff like that (I know about recording, but not a lot about what each thing means)

fr0sty wrote on 11/20/2017, 6:50 PM

If your source video is 30fps, render your output at 30fps... Though going to 29.97 shouldn't matter much if you must.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/21/2017, 7:54 PM

If your source video is 30fps, render your output at 30fps... Though going to 29.97 shouldn't matter much if you must.

it would matter if your source is 30, but then, you also add more videos that aren't 30 to the project

NickHope wrote on 11/22/2017, 1:14 AM

If your source video is 30fps, render your output at 30fps... Though going to 29.97 shouldn't matter much if you must.

it would matter if your source is 30, but then, you also add more videos that aren't 30 to the project

If resample is off and you put a 29.97fps clip in a 30fps project, you'll see a single repeated frame after every 33.4 seconds of that clip.

If you put a 30fps clip in a 29.97fps project, you'll see a single skipped frame after every 33.4 seconds of that clip.

If resample is on then you'll see gradually increasing blurriness up to 16.7 seconds of an uninterrupted clip as the video's frame boundaries drift away from the project's "frame grid", then gradually reducing blurriness for the next 16.7 seconds as they get closer to lining up again at 33.4 seconds.

All that can be cured by right-clicking the mis-matching video stream > Properties > Video Event > Conform to Project Frame Rate. You can delete the newly-created velocity envelope afterwards and still keep the time stretch that was introduced to make the video conform.

SimonGhoul wrote on 11/22/2017, 10:19 PM

If your source video is 30fps, render your output at 30fps... Though going to 29.97 shouldn't matter much if you must.

it would matter if your source is 30, but then, you also add more videos that aren't 30 to the project

If resample is off and you put a 29.97fps clip in a 30fps project, you'll see a single repeated frame after every 33.4 seconds of that clip.

If you put a 30fps clip in a 29.97fps project, you'll see a single skipped frame after every 33.4 seconds of that clip.

If resample is on then you'll see gradually increasing blurriness up to 16.7 seconds of an uninterrupted clip as the video's frame boundaries drift away from the project's "frame grid", then gradually reducing blurriness for the next 16.7 seconds as they get closer to lining up again at 33.4 seconds.

All that can be cured by right-clicking the mis-matching video stream > Properties > Video Event > Conform to Project Frame Rate. You can delete the newly-created velocity envelope afterwards and still keep the time stretch that was introduced to make the video conform.

thanks

Do you think is better to just do this manually? making the frame rate compatible with the project frame rate? maybe without sony vegas

NickHope wrote on 11/22/2017, 11:38 PM
Do you think is better to just do this manually? making the frame rate compatible with the project frame rate? maybe without sony vegas

Probably not. The method described above is pretty simple. You can use a script like this, and that's probably better than the method I described. If you have media that you want to re-use over and over again in mixed-frame-rate-projects then you could conform the frame rates to be equal outside of Vegas, for example using FFmpeg.