MOV files not recognized in version 15 (wrong format?)

Boris-Shafir wrote on 5/2/2020, 5:03 PM

I posted earlier that my MOV files are not recognized by the Movie Studio 15. I think I have more information as to why.

The MOV files that I create on iPhone have resolution 1920x1080, data rate 16704 kbps, total bitrate 16805 kbps, frame rate 30.01 frames/sec. When I connect my iPhone to my PC and copy the files over everything works fine. However, sometimes for whatever reason I get a disconnect error from iPhone and cannot copy.

I tried 3 other methods: copying from iPhone to a thumbdrive, copying to Dropbox, copying to OneDrive. In each case format of the copied file changes to resolution 1920x1088, data rate 8003 kbps, total bitrate 8090 kbps, frame rate 29.99 frames/second. These MOV files are the ones not recognized by the Movie Studio.

I have 3 questions, hopefully someone can help me:

(unrelated to Movie Studio) If anyone is familiar with the problem of iPhone getting disconnected during copying, do you know how to solve this? I have iPhoneX and iPhone 8 Plus, latest iOS.
(unrelated to Movie Studio) Does anyone know how to copy the MOV files to thumbdrive, OneDrive, or Dropbox without changing their parameters?
Is there a way to get Movie Studio to understand MOV files with these new parameters? I can successfully play them on my PC using "Movies & TV" Windows 10 player.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Musicvid wrote on 5/2/2020, 7:27 PM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

Boris-Shafir wrote on 5/6/2020, 5:01 PM

Per your advice I used Mediainfo. Here is the output for one of the good MOV files (copied directly from iPhone, Movie Studio recognized it):

General
Complete name : filename
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt )
File size : 69.7 MiB
Duration : 32 s 793 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 17.8 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:15
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:22
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model : iPhone 8 Plus
com.apple.quicktime.software : 13.3.1
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate : 2020-04-05T14:39:01-0400
com.apple.photos.originating.signature : Adbh4ipc6Nm8ba3rJ1aCujbD2NKj

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=15
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 32 s 793 ms
Bit rate : 16.8 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 31.579 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.270
Stream size : 65.7 MiB (94%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:15
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:22
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 32 s 792 ms
Source duration : 32 s 856 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 101 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel layout : C
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 404 KiB (1%)
Source stream size : 405 KiB (1%)
Title : Core Media Audio
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:15
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-02 18:22:22

Other #1
Type : meta
Duration : 32 s 793 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable

Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 32 s 793 ms

Boris-Shafir wrote on 5/6/2020, 5:02 PM

And here is one of the bad ones:

General
Complete name : file name
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt )
File size : 5.80 MiB
Duration : 6 s 2 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 101 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:32
Tagged date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:38
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model : iPhone X
com.apple.quicktime.software : 13.1.2
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate : 2020-04-06T06:59:32-0400

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 6 s 2 ms
Bit rate : 8 004 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.129
Stream size : 5.72 MiB (99%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:32
Tagged date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:38
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 6 s 0 ms
Source duration : 6 s 60 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 85.9 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel layout : C
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 62.9 KiB (1%)
Source stream size : 63.5 KiB (1%)
Title : Core Media Audio
Encoded date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:32
Tagged date : UTC 2020-04-06 10:59:38

Other #1
Type : meta
Duration : 6 s 2 ms

Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 6 s 2 ms

Boris-Shafir wrote on 5/6/2020, 5:12 PM

Looks like when I copy via Dropbox etc, it converts from AVC format to HEVC format. Does Movie Studio not support HEVC? And is there a way not to convert while copying?

Musicvid wrote on 5/6/2020, 9:03 PM

Your iPhone file is variable frame rate.

Vegas Movie Studio 15 does not open variable frame rate.

Convert your files to Constant Frame Rate, Same as Source, in Handbrake first.