MP4 or “other” with DVDA-type Menus and clickable Go-To?

Grazie wrote on 10/16/2020, 3:51 AM

OK, I’m fairly adept with DVDA, and can make stylish, reactive menus, but now I want to be able to allow individuals to download an MP4 or other type that would have these clickable-n-play Menu options.What do you guys suggest?

TIA - Mr G 😎

 

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Espadon wrote on 10/18/2020, 4:08 PM

You can create an iso file for your DVDA project and distribute. The recipient can play it, with all the click-n-play controls in VLC Player, which is free. Make sure to check the iso box in file types when installing.

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Grazie wrote on 10/18/2020, 4:35 PM

@Espadon - Thank you. Apart from VLC is there any other Player or method I can work towards?

Musicvid wrote on 10/18/2020, 10:55 PM

Nope, not able to imbed in a video file. As mentioned, you can do chapter marks with names in MP4. Drax will grab your Vegas chapters to import.

Flash is extinct, the raw capability for menus and titles is there in MKV, but in all these years, no one has bothered to develop it.

Grazie wrote on 10/18/2020, 11:21 PM

@Musicvid - Oh yes! FLASH! I had excellent that used Flash for making presentations that could be used in Webpages. Maybe that’s a route I should explore? But yes, Flash.

Musicvid wrote on 10/18/2020, 11:45 PM

Interesting reading here. Interested in learning HTML5?

https://www.rystedtcreative.com/tech-talks/flash-dead/#:~:text=Adobe%20has%20announced%20that%20Flash,Flash%20to%20the%20software%20graveyard.&text=The%20cause%20of%20Flash's%20death%20was%20multifaceted.

Grazie wrote on 10/19/2020, 12:56 AM

Interesting reading here.

@Musicvid - Yes it is. Thanks for digging it out for me.

Interested in learning HTML5?

@Musicvid - This is Grazie here?

I used to have a Corel/PaintShopPro Product that was something called/like OPUS PRO, and that did MP4 rich content and clickable, almost like PowerPoint on Steriods! And used FLEX Encode ALL the stuff.

I gotta ask, isn’t it about time, in this non-DVD culture we're in, where everything is downloadable that a/any software company hasn’t come up with an alternative to a menu-rich DVDA-like environment?

My Holy Grail, and Grazie-Proof, would be to Author in DVDA and be able to export THAT to an upload-able, menu rich experience for the Viewer?

walter-i. wrote on 10/19/2020, 1:50 AM
 

My Holy Grail, and Grazie-Proof, would be to Author in DVDA and be able to export THAT to an upload-able, menu rich experience for the Viewer?

+1

Grazie wrote on 10/19/2020, 2:17 AM

@walter-i. - Thanks for the support. This HAS to be a MAGIX natural opportunity - has to be. There’s so much pro and homegrown video content needing to have the Style and Funkiness of DVDA formation, that I can’t believe this isn’t already in the traps!

Pro and homegrown stuff: Sports; Tutorials; IdeasCreations; Family Histories; Education ..... massive list...

What do we want?

Clickable Videos!

When do we want Them?

Now!!!

Espadon wrote on 10/19/2020, 3:43 AM

Thank you. Apart from VLC is there any other Player or method I can work towards?

Yes. There is plenty of info here:

https://www.easefab.com/instructables/five-ways-to-open-and-play-iso-image-files.html

There are lots of Bluray/DVD players around. I've tried Leawo Bluray Player but its not as good as VLC and it needs Java and cash to get rid of the ads.

 

I gotta ask, isn’t it about time, in this non-DVD culture we're in, where everything is downloadable that a/any software company hasn’t come up with an alternative to a menu-rich DVDA-like environment?

My Holy Grail, and Grazie-Proof, would be to Author in DVDA and be able to export THAT to an upload-able, menu rich experience for the Viewer?

Quite agree. Mainly because DVDs and Bluray discs written on a pc optical drive have a short shelf life. There are lots of stories of old unreadable DVDs. Although the VLC option works, the drawback is that the file has to be downloaded instead of being streamed. So, we're stuck with the video type controls of YouTube, which I suppose are OK for short films.

I'm going to look into Drax and MKV files suggested by Musicvid (thanks!).

 

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Musicvid wrote on 10/19/2020, 4:23 AM

ISOs would actually be practical if the actual media could be five-ten times smaller than MPEG-2, as to be competitive.

Maybe experiment with SD or low bitrate avchd BluRay ISOs, eh Grazie? You would be just the guy to pull it off...

Grazie wrote on 10/19/2020, 11:57 AM

Maybe experiment with SD or low bitrate avchd BluRay ISOs, eh Grazie?

@Musicvid - Sure, SD in this instance would be fine . . . . ?

You would be just the guy to pull it off...

@Musicvid - "Faith knows no bounds."

Grazie wrote on 10/19/2020, 12:00 PM

@Espadon - Thanks for your support. It's as if we've come through the beauty of DVD Menus and then plop! - Left high and dry.

Musicvid wrote on 10/19/2020, 12:16 PM

Laser Discs had much better menus and complex navigation!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserDisc

Espadon wrote on 10/19/2020, 12:47 PM

@Espadon - Thanks for your support. It's as if we've come through the beauty of DVD Menus and then plop! - Left high and dry.

like the LP, the cassette tape, CD and Betamax etc, the DVD click-n-play slides into history!

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joelsonforte.br wrote on 10/19/2020, 12:56 PM

I've been dreaming of this feature for a long time. I don't understand why no developer has ever weighed this.

Marco. wrote on 10/19/2020, 1:22 PM

"I don't understand why no developer has ever weighed this."

Some did, e.g. TmpegEnc PGMX Creator does. Also you could use a simple HTML(5) layout or an HTML editor to accomplish this.

Grazie wrote on 10/19/2020, 1:59 PM

Also you could use a simple HTML(5) layout or an HTML editor to accomplish this.

@Marco. - Moi? I think not. But thanks for believing in me.

 

Grazie wrote on 10/22/2020, 4:02 PM

After Media content manipulation in VP18 then Converting to DVD files:

Create DVD in DVDA >>> Burn to Virtual DISC - ISO >>> Play ISO in VLC

This gives me Menus and Navigation of Thumbnails.

More experimenting to be done, but it's got the makings of a Project.

Musicvid wrote on 10/22/2020, 4:08 PM

@Musicvid - "Faith knows no bounds."

Well, actually it does. But with you, we haven't reached them yet.

Rainer wrote on 10/22/2020, 4:53 PM

It's doable with HTML, or iso, but that's not so much the issue. The problem is with people who got a thumb drive of the wedding (generic term, may not refer to a wedding) in the mail but still don't want or know how to operate a computer. They know how to insert a DVD into a DVD slot, and with some fumbling are capable of inserting a flash drive into the USB slot on the TV (most TVs have them nowadays), but after that it's all a bit confusing.

walter-i. wrote on 10/23/2020, 3:12 AM

They know how to insert a DVD into a DVD slot, and with some fumbling are capable of inserting a flash drive into the USB slot on the TV (most TVs have them nowadays), but after that it's all a bit confusing.

Exactly that also applies to some of my (older) "customers". I recently explained to a friend of mine how to record from his smart TV (the former video recorder function). I noticed that the hard drive that he bought 7 years ago with the TV had been running unused for those 7 years and had only consumed electricity ........
People are often overwhelmed with the many features that new devices bring with them. Apparently they would be better served with single devices that have only limited functions. (like in the good old days)

But thank God these are only isolated cases.

 

Grazie wrote on 10/23/2020, 3:40 AM

But thank God these are only isolated cases.

@walter-i. - I hope so. Eventually I’m going forward with three files that individuals could download from DropBox:

  • 1) ISO
  • 2) VLC for Windows ( if they don’t have it)
  • 3) VLC for MAC ( if they don’t have it)

Any comments? Suggestions?

EricLNZ wrote on 10/23/2020, 3:56 AM

Prof @Grazie Whatever invention you come up with it needs to be playable on a TV or Apple or Android gadget.

Grazie wrote on 10/23/2020, 4:06 AM

Whatever invention you come up with it needs to be playable on a TV or Apple or Android gadget.

@EricLNZ - I hear yah!