New Laptop Required

Peter-Wood wrote on 4/17/2020, 4:09 AM

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone advise, I have a budget of £650 max, and looking for a laptop that will run Vegas Pro, but I really can;t find anything. My work laptop is ASUS and it runs fine. The only thing it struggles with is float and pop and text like that, otherwise. handles it fine..

its a Asus Vivobook 14 with 2.3 GHz and 4gb ram,

 

When I look online, everyone says you must have 16gb, and SSD drive at least 512gb. I really don;t have the money for that, kind of spec,

 

Can anyone assist

 

Thanks

 

 

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j-v wrote on 4/17/2020, 4:15 AM

When I look online, everyone says you must have 16gb, and SSD drive at least 512gb. I really don;t have the money for that, kind of spec,

Depends also on type of files, codecs to use for decoding and encoding and dimensions of the video you want to use with Vegas Pro????? on a laptop.
But you are not telling that, so real assist will be very difficult

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Dexcon wrote on 4/17/2020, 4:25 AM

Assuming that you have Vegas Pro 17, the Vegas Pro website lists the specifications as:

Operating system: Microsoft® Windows 10 (64-bit)

Processor: 6th Generation Intel Core i5 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 2.5 Ghz and 4 Core minimum. For 4k, 7th Generation Intel Core i7 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 3.0 Ghz and 8 Core minimum

RAM: 8 GB RAM minimum (16 GB recommended; 32 GB recommended for 4K)

Hard drive space: 1.5 GB hard-disk space for program installation; Solid-state disk (SSD) or high-speed multi-disk RAID for 4K media

Other: Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 SP1 (included on application disc)

Internet connection: Required for registering and validating the program, as well as for some program functions. Program requires one-time registration.

If you're not going to be using 4K media, then not as much RAM is needed. Needless to say, there is a likelihood of reduced performance if the computer's specs are less than recommended by MAGIX, especially if adding lots of FX.

It would probably be worthwhile looking at the big names like HP, Dell, ASUS etc to see if they have any current reduced price specials (Dell often do) in order to get a unit with the highest specs for your budget.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition; Samsung S23 Ultra smart phone

Installed: Vegas Pro 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 & 23, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20.3, BCC 2026, Mocha Pro 2026, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR 6, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 12, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11 25H2

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Peter-Wood wrote on 4/17/2020, 4:59 AM

When I look online, everyone says you must have 16gb, and SSD drive at least 512gb. I really don;t have the money for that, kind of spec,

Depends also on type of files, codecs to use for decoding and encoding and dimensions of the video you want to use with Vegas Pro????? on a laptop.
But you are not telling that, so real assist will be very difficult

I work with Vegas Pro 365

Peter-Wood wrote on 4/17/2020, 5:02 AM

Assuming that you have Vegas Pro 17, the Vegas Pro website lists the specifications as:

Operating system: Microsoft® Windows 10 (64-bit)

Processor: 6th Generation Intel Core i5 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 2.5 Ghz and 4 Core minimum. For 4k, 7th Generation Intel Core i7 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 3.0 Ghz and 8 Core minimum

RAM: 8 GB RAM minimum (16 GB recommended; 32 GB recommended for 4K)

Hard drive space: 1.5 GB hard-disk space for program installation; Solid-state disk (SSD) or high-speed multi-disk RAID for 4K media

Other: Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 SP1 (included on application disc)

Internet connection: Required for registering and validating the program, as well as for some program functions. Program requires one-time registration.

If you're not going to be using 4K media, then not as much RAM is needed. Needless to say, there is a likelihood of reduced performance if the computer's specs are less than recommended by MAGIX, especially if adding lots of FX.

It would probably be worthwhile looking at the big names like HP, Dell, ASUS etc to see if they have any current reduced price specials (Dell often do) in order to get a unit with the highest specs for your budget.

OK , Thanks. I don't shoot video in 4K. I just thought if it works with Asus 4gb, I3 Am I paying to much for something that can run on that spec of computer

j-v wrote on 4/17/2020, 5:22 AM

 I just thought if it works with Asus 4gb, I3

No you need at least a 6th generation i5 with 2,5 Ghz and 4 Core, and minimal 8 GB RAM

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Dexcon wrote on 4/17/2020, 5:43 AM

@Peter-Wood

Am I paying to much for something that can run on that spec of computer

Think about it another way … think about future-proofing yourself for the medium term by getting at the very least a minimum spec'd computer but better if possible, especially with RAM though, to be fair, RAM can usually be added to (if 2 slots on board) or swapped for bigger RAM in the future. You have Vegas Pro 365 which is currently VP17 on subscription, but it will be upgraded to VP18 when released (going on previous years in Q3 usually August).and may have new features that will definitely require good or higher computer specs. Of course, there's no way of knowing that until VP18 is actually released.

Overall, be very cautious about the super-budget route - it may turn out to be a false economy that may have you kicking yourself in time to come.

 

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition; Samsung S23 Ultra smart phone

Installed: Vegas Pro 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 & 23, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20.3, BCC 2026, Mocha Pro 2026, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR 6, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 12, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11 25H2

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Peter-Wood wrote on 4/17/2020, 6:06 AM

@Peter-Wood

Am I paying to much for something that can run on that spec of computer

Think about it another way … think about future-proofing yourself for the medium term by getting at the very least a minimum spec'd computer but better if possible, especially with RAM though, to be fair, RAM can usually be added to (if 2 slots on board) or swapped for bigger RAM in the future. You have Vegas Pro 365 which is currently VP17 on subscription, but it will be upgraded to VP18 when released (going on previous years in Q3 usually August).and may have new features that will definitely require good or higher computer specs. Of course, there's no way of knowing that until VP18 is actually released.

Overall, be very cautious about the super-budget route - it may turn out to be a false economy that may have you kicking yourself in time to come.

 

9th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-9300H (8MB Cache, up to 4.1 GHz, 4 cores)

Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 3GB GDDR5

8GB 2x4GB DDR4 2666MHz

512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive

Ports & Slots

j-v wrote on 4/17/2020, 6:19 AM

@Peter-Wood
Looks good, 2 GPU's.
Maybe a bigger or second harddrive is needed if you beyond only internet looking also video edits want to make.
Another drive for your sourcefiles works also better than on the same drive where Windows is installed.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Dexcon wrote on 4/17/2020, 6:22 AM

9th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-9300H (8MB Cache, up to 4.1 GHz, 4 cores)

Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 3GB GDDR5

8GB 2x4GB DDR4 2666MHz

512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive

For non-4K, that's reasonable IMO but with a plus and a minus. 16GB RAM really would be better, but 512GB M.2 is really good from a program installation point-of-view. I've noticed over the years with Dell in particular, their offers change regularly. One time it would be - for example only - 512GB SSD with 8GB RAM, but the next offer a few weeks later at a similar price would be 16GB RAM but with only a 256GB SSD.

One other thing - check to make sure that the laptop has provision to install a spinning disk HDD because 256 or 512GB is not very big to hold very much project media in addition to the OS and other programs otherwise you're probably need to resort to USB external HDDs - maybe not necessary if the project medis is only a few GBs in size.

 

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition; Samsung S23 Ultra smart phone

Installed: Vegas Pro 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 & 23, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20.3, BCC 2026, Mocha Pro 2026, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR 6, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 12, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11 25H2

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

TheRhino wrote on 4/17/2020, 6:50 PM

In January I got an Evoo 17 from Walmart for $1000 USD, but they have a similar refurbished Evoo 15 for < $573 USD after 15% OFF (< £530), here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114053607175

This site sells Walmart returns which were sold at Christmas, but returned simply because some customers found a better deal on a different laptop, like the Evoo 17 I have... Walmart has a GENEROUS return policy & they no longer want to sell hassle with clearing the hard drives & selling them as open box items...

The Evoo 15 has a fast 15" display, I7-9750H 6-core CPU, GTX 1660ti, 16GB or RAM, 512 M.2, etc. It has an EMPTY spot for an extra SSD or SATA, so you could add a $60 2TB SATA drive & be good for editing... For editing, you definitely want your video files on a separate drive INSIDE your laptop.

I have a 9900K & VEGA 64 desktop for serious 4K editing, but I use my Evoo laptop for editing 1080p MP4's for work, family, etc. from the comfort of my living room Lazyboy recliner... The Evoo 17 has a GTX 2660 & 1TB M.2 drive, so IMO it was worth the extra I paid...

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Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

Musicvid wrote on 4/17/2020, 9:40 PM

The simple advice for editing on laptops is as valid now as it was a decade ago.

Get the most powerful CPU and Best screen you can find. GPU and RAM come next.

Remember, you will be spending a lot of time looking at the screen.

walter-i. wrote on 4/18/2020, 2:11 AM
 

Remember, you will be spending a lot of time looking at the screen.

+1 Walter