PC crash......LOST EVERYTHING

FoskeyMedia wrote on 3/23/2017, 6:22 PM

OK working in Vegas Pro13 on this project for a month. Almost done, need to deliver this weekend. All of a sudden I get a message I need to reboot my PC. WHen I do.... that file is GONE. Of course I paniced. This is catastrophic. Luckily I'd just saved it and thought...well I see the .vegbak so I gave it a show and tried to open it. That worked and now I have it saved on 2 drives.

BUT.... THIS CAN"T BE HAPPENING!!!! I don't know why it happened. I'm glad that vegbak file was there because I often delete them

ANY CLUES AS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW I CAN PREVENT IT FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN ???

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Dexcon wrote on 3/23/2017, 6:50 PM

I'm not sure why it happens, but I have had a crash also lose the veg file.

Since then, I regularly 'save as' the veg file updated with a new name like xxxxxx1, xxxxxx2, xxxxxx3, etc.  If the latest veg file becomes unusable, then there is always the previous version to go back to.

Also, look at saving the veg file to an external hard drive, memory card, etc after each session so that you have a recent veg version to go back to if the worst comes to pass on your computer (if the computer's HD fails, you may not even have a veg.bak file to go back to without an external back up).  This way, you've only lost one session's work rather than weeks/months of work if you have no back up saved elsewhere. 

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TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/23/2017, 8:10 PM

I keep footage on one drive, data files for projects on another. All a different drive from my programs. Just in case.

Sometimes, things died & you're FUBAR. :(

monoparadox wrote on 3/23/2017, 8:32 PM

Every once in a while do a project archive with media to an external drive. Simple and fairly quick. Great peace of mind when you've put a lot of work into a project.

-- tom

Musicvid wrote on 3/23/2017, 8:53 PM

Do a thorough disk error scan before going forward. May seem alright for a while, but this is going to repeat itself.

ushere wrote on 3/23/2017, 9:19 PM

+1 musicvid.

nothing is forever, and certainly not hard drives, either mechanical OR ssd ;-(

FoskeyMedia wrote on 3/23/2017, 9:41 PM

Thank you....Most of this I already do ,,except the error scan I'll do before the nights out. Here's my set up

Drive C: OS and programs - 99gb partition with about 35gb of free space (history - originally it was a small SSD. This weekend I replaced it with a 1TB HDD and cloned it. With the extra space I'll increase the C drive and use the new E partition for current work in progress)
Drive G. an external 4TB Seagate with only about 115GB free,. This is the drive with all of my project files right now and the drive I'm working from. However, this will be the last project for that. After this is done I'll be running all current project from the E partition of that new 1TB drive and using the external for archiving and back up.

I also have a 128gb SSD internal drive. I was going to use that for current project files, but to be honest...,many of my projects come in with about 100GB of raw footage.

FoskeyMedia wrote on 3/23/2017, 9:47 PM

Here's another interesting development... don't know if it's related at all.

I'm using NewBlue Titler Pro 3. One of the templates lets you put in a logo. I have spent a good part of the day replacing that logo over and over. I put it in.. a few hours later NewBlue says it can't find it. So I reattach it. and it will disappear again later......curious.

Going to open a New Blue ticket also.

 

Musicvid wrote on 3/23/2017, 9:52 PM

Again, that is not a common occurrence. Back up your entire drive tonight. Can't hurt, and might save your butt down the road.

Dexcon wrote on 3/23/2017, 11:34 PM

Re NewBlue Titler Pro 3 problem with disappearing titling ...

I have this occurring with NBTP5 and lodged a ticket a few weeks ago.  It seems to be a known problem, though obviously not just with TP5.  And it's a very annoying problem.

It's a good idea to lodge a new ticket as it gives NB a better idea as to the extent of the problem.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

MartinE wrote on 3/24/2017, 2:20 AM

Every edit session, first thing is "save as" to a new veg file so if veg file gets corrupt or deleted I only lose one edit session max. I save the veg files in a folder on Dropbox but it's just occurred to me that if the file got deleted somehow it would get deleted in the cloud also so maybe Dropbox isn't a great idea after all. Also clone hard drive (progs and OS) every week and I have 2 copies of all my source footage. When you've put your heart and soul into a project for many months the thought of losing it all ........! Find nearest window to jump through.

NCARalph wrote on 3/26/2017, 10:34 AM

With drives being so cheap, I've gone to a multiple drive mirrored system using Microsoft's Storage Spaces and Resilient File System. Writes are slower, but reads are fast and the whole system should be very crash resistant.

ddm wrote on 3/27/2017, 12:24 PM

>>>>Every edit session, first thing is "save as" to a new veg file so if veg file gets corrupt or deleted I only lose one edit session max.

 

I always do this, as in "Donnas Wedding01.veg, Donnas Wedding02, 03 etc. They get sorted if you keep the file naming the same so it's always easy to find the latest edit, even months or years later. It also comes in handy when you have wandered off in the weeds with some edits that you might want to reel in, and it frees you to get in the weeds, knowing that you can go back to a prior version. Doesn't eliminate a hard drive crash or a deleted or corrupted file, but having a boatload of recent edits is just a good idea, for several reasons. It's also not a bad idea, to make a copy of your veg files at the end of a session to a different drive. They're so small, takes a few seconds.