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Yelandkeil wrote on 4/8/2022, 12:31 PM

Had and was.

If still producing DV/HD(EX) with Sony ancient camcorders, it has and is, without supporting modern GPU-Acceleration.

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RogerS wrote on 4/8/2022, 1:34 PM

What exactly is your question?

HEVC is a newer delivery format that's very space efficient. (It's also an acquisition format for phones and certain cameras).Recent hardware supports HEVC decoding natively. You can upload HEVC as is to sites like YouTube if you choose- saves on bandwith/upload time.

Charley-Taylor wrote on 4/8/2022, 2:45 PM

File size for my interests the larger the better so I have the least amount of compression. Creative Labs has not changed the rendering since MXF format for Magix MS 13 V. I am aware of Sony Creative labs/SW. Other than what I have seen re: products I am interested if they are up to prime time? Anything on the horizon? Thank you in advance.

RogerS wrote on 4/8/2022, 3:04 PM

In that case, I'd go with lightly compressed intermediate formats. The standard these days is Apple ProRes and Vegas Pro handles it natively. I also use the paid MagicYUV which is quite good and works in Vegas.

Charley-Taylor wrote on 4/8/2022, 5:35 PM

Dear RogerS,

Much appreciation RogerS. Sincerely, Charley Taylor

Musicvid wrote on 4/8/2022, 7:39 PM

MXF is a container for acquisition and intermediate formats.

HEVC is a delivery format, usually but not always in an MP4 container.

What is your intended use?

Charley-Taylor wrote on 4/8/2022, 10:35 PM

Dear Musicvid,

You are long lost friend. Some years ago you taught me about trying to up-rez. I have always leave everything source thank to you and your amazing mathematics.

I learned recently from RogerS - Prores HQ works best on my system. Intel has best results rather Nvidia. Gratitude Vegas A-Team. Sincerely, Charley Taylor

Musicvid wrote on 4/8/2022, 10:42 PM

Thank you, Charley.

TheRhino wrote on 4/9/2022, 4:08 AM

I collaborate with other professionals who do not use Vegas. I use AVID DNxHR & (now) Vegas' ProRes templates to send them high quality intermediates and Magix HEVC and AVC MP4 templates to send them delivery formats for easy previewing when they first receive my work.

Both DNxHR & ProRes are optimized to be visually lossless through many generations of decoding and re-encoding, you can choose 4:4:4 with alpha channel, and therefore the only limitation is the quality of your source video. Neither is highly GPU-assisted in Vegas, so I typically open one instance of Vegas to batch render the DNxHR/ProRes files and another instance of Vegas to render the GPU-assisted HEVC/AVC at the same time.

One benefit of DNxHR is that when working with old reel-to-reel movie films, I can set the frame rate to match the speed of the film so that one frame of video matches one frame of film, etc... However, a known bug within Vegas is that if too many QT-based files are loaded onto the timeline at once, Vegas will crash. When Apple abandoned QT support for Windows-based apps, unlike other NLEs, Magix has not found a work-around, so they made QT support a "depreciated feature" within Vegas. For now my work-around is just not to load to many MOV files into Vegas at once...

 

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Charley-Taylor wrote on 4/11/2022, 12:39 AM

Dear The Rhino,

I've heard of Avid but have not studied it. Is Black Magic kind of sharing? For some years I have been with some tweaks overcoming chromatic aberration. Have been studying variations of a bunch of 3rd party. It's from faootage but I see some good stuff because my old camcorder produced it frequently. For the past few years I hardly see it my Camcoder to a different camcorder. Chromatic Abberation. The Rhino, admire what you write. last para. Move MOV into Vegas at once until fast reg. kicks in. Are the plugins pretty good? It seems like we availabilty to other plugins. Post-Production sharing different plugins - goal - best renders and combine. Thank you for the heads up. Sincerely, Charley Taylor

Charley-Taylor wrote on 4/14/2022, 1:41 AM

Dear TheRhino, Studied Avid hoping I would find something better. Thank you for suggestion for collaboratin, and I hope you get the best out of each. Currently, Avid Main webpage has broken url's to download free - free trial

Maybe I'm missing something... Wanted to give it a try - it looks good - maybe you please clue me in perhaps?

I like touse important that each application does their best with plugins. Sincerely, Charley Taylor