Rendering impossible

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 2:28 AM

After reinstalling Vegas Pro 19 Edit on a clean Windows 10 installation. Can not be rendered. The program crashes when "Render As" is clicked. The same thing happens in Vegas Pro 18 Edit and in Vegas Studio Platinum 17.

Comments

walter-i. wrote on 9/28/2021, 2:45 AM

Have you also reinstalled all the graphics drivers?
Check Vegas Pro under "Help - Check for driver updates".

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 3:38 AM

Yes, all drivers are up to date and the current graphics driver is 472.12 (NVIDIA).
The programs ran before a clean install of Windows 10 took place.

Grazie wrote on 9/28/2021, 3:39 AM

@Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt - Now do a series of regression testing.

RogerS wrote on 9/28/2021, 4:01 AM

How about some hints as to the issue.

What media, what render templates, what hardware are you using?

Do all renders fail? Can you render a benchmark project? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

Grazie wrote on 9/28/2021, 4:19 AM

As @RogerS requests. Also, make sure your .DOT NETFRAMEWORK is up to date.

Peter-Riding wrote on 9/28/2021, 6:13 AM

You're probably way ahead of me - nearly everyone else is - but I'll say this because I had the same issue with Vegas 18 recently.

It was on a new Alienware laptop with an RTX 3060 with the studio driver as yours - 472.12

I had been able to render some other work that I'd already finished editing on an old desktop (no usable GPU).I'd also been able to render some "clean" test files on the laptop.

I had transferred all the Vegas settings from the old desktop to the new laptop using Vegas's newish Export>Import functionality.

I tinkered with Options > Preferences > File I/O and found that the "Hardware Decoder To Use" was at Off. I changed that to Auto NVIDIA NVDEC and that did the trick.

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 7:14 AM

Here is the error message after shutting down.
Problem Description
   Application Name:    VEGAS Pro
   Application Version: Version 19.0 (Build 341)
   Problem:             Unmanaged Exception (0x40010006)
   Fault Module:        C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
   Fault Address:       0x000000007700CFEA
   Fault Offset:        0x000000000008CFEA

Fault Process Details
   Process Path:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 19.0\x86\FileIOSurrogate.exe
   Process Version:     Version 19.0 (Build 341)
   Process Description: File I/O surrogate (not visible)
   Process Image Date:  2021-08-10 (Tue Aug 10) 22:38:58

Musicvid wrote on 9/28/2021, 8:11 AM

It won't hurt to try a reset.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

 

RogerS wrote on 9/28/2021, 8:36 AM

Can you answer any of the other questions?

VEGASDerek wrote on 9/28/2021, 8:41 AM


   Process Path:        C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 19.0\x86\FileIOSurrogate.exe
 

Do you have QuickTime installed on your system and/or have turned on the depreciated QuickTime support in VEGAS?

bvideo wrote on 9/28/2021, 10:38 AM

One of the last things Vegas does when you click "render As" is to survey all the codecs. On my system a few years ago Vegas crashed in that process. So another good question is what codecs have you installed. Codec packs? Other video editors that may have installed codecs, etc?

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 11:16 AM

Yes, but when I can not even enter the menu and select codecs and the program crashes, it is not so easy.
The program also crashes if I want to render to another track. Well really a natural consequence.
Also, I have not installed any more codecs ..
But I have then noticed that
Shift + B
"Build Dynamic RAM preview" - works very fine.
----
Shift + M
"Selectivily Prerender Video ..." - works very fine

-
VegasDerek asked if I had QuickTime installed or enabled in Vegas. My answer is simply "no".
It's tiring with this error, because I've been using Vegas Movie studio for many years and only now got upgraded to Vegas pro 18/19 Edit.
I do not intend to replace Vegas with anything else, as the program is incredibly appropriate to work with when you are a happy amateur.

j-v wrote on 9/28/2021, 11:29 AM

@ Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt 
Is that crash always with every project or file?
When only at a certain project(type), which one and which type of sourcefiles are used?

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 12:29 PM

I have had several camera types for many years. In recent years, using files from a canon camera - MTS - and from a GoPro Hero 7 Black - MP4. These files have never caused any problems.
In addition, I have so far without any problems edited old video recordings from VHS from the eighties and Sony HI8 from the nineties.
In connection with my work, I had access to programs from Adobe (Premiere Pro), but privately it was the Vegas Studio series - (Sony Vegas) inspired by a local TV station, where Vegas Pro was the preferred software
The problems have been few. But now it's so wrong.
  .

j-v wrote on 9/28/2021, 1:38 PM

Is it possible to show here the MediaInfo of those MTS files following this tutorial?
My own MTS cannot be used if they are used as 5.1 surround audio and gave the same symptons.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/28/2021, 1:44 PM

Yes, here is data from a single file (MTS) is recorded with a Canon camcorder.

General

Complete name :J:\Videoredigering\01 Rå optagelser - kopier fra Canon SD\08-06-2018 - Ida og Martin fjerner stræstub\08-06-2018 Martin og Ida fjerner træstub.MOV

Format :MPEG-4

Format profile :QuickTime

Codec ID :qt 2007.09 (qt /CAEP)

File size :109 MiB

Duration :19 s 720 ms

Overall bit rate :46.5 Mb/s

Encoded date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

Tagged date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

 

Video

ID :1

Format :AVC

Format/Info :Advanced Video Codec

Format profile :Baseline@L5

Format settings :1 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC :No

Format settings, Reference frames :1 frame

Format settings, GOP :M=1, N=12

Codec ID :avc1

Codec ID/Info :Advanced Video Coding

Duration :19 s 720 ms

Bit rate :44.9 Mb/s

Width :1 920 pixels

Height :1 080 pixels

Original height :1 088 pixels

Display aspect ratio :16:9

Frame rate mode :Constant

Frame rate :25.000 FPS

Color space :YUV

Chroma subsampling :4:2:0

Bit depth :8 bits

Scan type :Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) :0.867

Stream size :106 MiB (97%)

Language :English

Encoded date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

Tagged date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

Color range :Full

Color primaries :BT.709

Transfer characteristics :BT.709

Matrix coefficients :BT.601

Codec configuration box :avcC

 

Audio

ID :2

Format :PCM

Format settings :Little / Signed

Codec ID :sowt

Duration :19 s 720 ms

Bit rate mode :Constant

Bit rate :1 536 kb/s

Channel(s) :2 channels

Channel layout :L R

Sampling rate :48.0 kHz

Bit depth :16 bits

Stream size :3.61 MiB (3%)

Language :English

Encoded date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

Tagged date :UTC 2018-06-08 15:50:48

 

j-v wrote on 9/28/2021, 1:56 PM

Then you have not the same problem as I did.
Sorry I cannot help, did you followed the advice of @VEGASDerek?

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/29/2021, 1:44 PM

Grazie asked earlier in this thread if the dot.netframe was up to date.
Yes. This file has been updated.
Thank you for your bid.

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/29/2021, 9:40 PM

Solved

Many thanks for the help.
VEGASDerik inspired me to uninstall C: \ Program Files \ VEGAS \ Movie Studio Platinum 17.0 \ x86 \ FileIOSurrogate.exe.
Voila - the problem was solved and now the Vegas programs are running fine.

Sincerely
Hans-Jørgen

EricLNZ wrote on 9/29/2021, 10:13 PM

Thanks Hans-Jorgen. I wonder why? Does VMS17 Platinum still work okay as well as VP?

Hans-Jorgen-Sindholt wrote on 9/29/2021, 10:20 PM

It has also amazed me that this is the case, but now "rendering" works in both Vegas Studio Platinum 17, Vegas pro 18 Edit and Vegas pro 19.
Also after restarting the computer.
Now I'm not a programmer at all. just user of Windows 10 - and of course the programs that are installed. But it could be interesting to get an explanation for it - and whether the removal of the file has consequences elsewhere in the programs.

EricLNZ wrote on 9/29/2021, 10:22 PM

Very interesting. I wonder if your FileIOSurrogate.exe got corrupted. If you look in the folder has a new file appeared?

@VEGASDerek

Jordibo wrote on 2/26/2023, 5:12 PM

Hi, I just resolved the same issue in my Vegas Pro 18, the program crashed each time after selecting [Render As] in the File menu (tried different solutions like disabling the GPU rendering, setting RAM to zero, cleaning temp folder, ... all of it you can read in other threads). The solution was to delete the file "c:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\x86\FileIOSurrogate.exe". I am not sure what this file does but removing it simply helped.

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