Rendering or makig movies for yhoutube gives huge file zie

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 7:49 AM


I have a 122 mb video edited in vegas mivie studio
but when i come to render, or make mp4 movie, 
the file size jumps up 770mb

How can i get something more workable for web viewing
I would expect 30/40/50 mb
Video only runs 8 mins.

I chose HD1080 25p fro the render




Steve Grisetti wrote on 7/13/2019, 7:53 AM

Your output file is rarely the same size as your original video. There are many variables involved. I don't know how long your original video is or what device recorded it, but it could be using any number of compression systems.

770 mb is not terribly large for a movie. A HD MP4 at 25 fps is perfect for loading to YouTube. YouTube will re-encode it to make it a more efficient streaming file, as it does anything you upload to it.

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 7:58 AM

Hi Steve,

The video runs 8 mins
Also the preview is only filling 30% approx, of preview screen
How can i make it fill it? I think it is affecting quality of final render whch is low quality


Musicvid wrote on 7/13/2019, 8:26 AM

Start here :


FayFen wrote on 7/13/2019, 8:37 AM

It's because you didn't set the bit rate

set it to 7Mb and you will be more than OK.

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 12:22 PM

I ran media info and got this below.
But window size is too small and quality of render is very poor

My selections on the render were:
Any suggestions greatly appreciated, thanks

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Andrew\Documents\Movie Studio 16.0 Platinum Projects\sat2-video1.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 24.4 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 min 52 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 384 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:30

ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L3.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=4, N=15
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 min 52 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.008
Stream size                              : 12.1 MiB (50%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:31
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:31
Color range                              : Limited
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 min 52 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 342 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 12.0 MiB (49%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:31
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-07-13 16:50:31

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 12:28 PM

here is the plugin info:

  Name: sat1211Viedo1.mp4
  Folder: F:\Vegas and Logeithe fiesl 2019
  Type: AVC
  Size: 34.40 MB (35,220,780 bytes)
  Created: 13 July 2019, 12:11:16
  Modified: 13 July 2019, 12:16:49
  Accessed: 13 July 2019, 12:11:16
  Attributes: Archive

  Video: 00:08:58.880, 25.000 fps progressive, 1280x720x32, AVC
  Audio: 00:08:58.729, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

  [TCFM]: 9

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\Movie Studio Platinum 16.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 12:29 PM

source media created with logitech capture software.

Arthur-Stoller wrote on 7/13/2019, 12:39 PM

Source file from logitech was passed thorugh handbrake and produced at 22 RF



Musicvid wrote on 7/13/2019, 2:15 PM

Your capture was at 1280 x 720 at 192 Kbps.

That's too low to do anything with. Sorry.

Best you'll get is from the 720p Internet preset, and that will probably be larger than the original, but with nothing to gain.

j-v wrote on 7/13/2019, 3:26 PM

Like @Musicvid said your projectfile has a very low bitrate and that means no quality for that kind of file with 1280x720 pixels
For seeing your preview in total your projectsettings have to be as follows

For rendering you should choose the following screen with the customized template to get the same quality and possible filesize in VMS 16, but maybe better is for this case of a bad sourcefile is to choose half bitrate of that default ( not customized) template:




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