Ok @VEGASPascal . Thank you. I will have to find how to apply it as a media effect then.
Never used media effects before.

Does it work for SD to HD?

Ok, thank you.

You apply MedIa Effects in the

Project Media Window, not to the Event, Track, or Output Levels.

That's what he means.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/got-questions-consult-the-tutorials-first-please--120282/

@Bertrand-H In the project Media Window, either right click the media file and select "Media FX" or select a media file, to highlight it, then click the FX button in the row of icons at the top of the window, then apply the appropriate FX.

As you select/highlight media one by one in this media project window the FX icon will change colour to indicate if it has an FX applied, or not.

If you have say applied an FX at the event level, this project Media FX icon won't reflect this state, (unless also applied at media level) but it will change colour on the event FX icon.

Quick message to thank everyone who replied to my questions.

Out of curiosity, I took to the time to compare SmartUpscale with BCC UpRez (followed the instructions available here : ). I can tell results are a lot better with Vegas Smart Upscale on my SD sources.

@Bertrand-H use it as Media effect (this is important)

admit it that I always apply it as VideoFX... didn't know that it should be as MediaFX.

Try BCC UpRez for event FX.

Quick message to thank everyone who replied to my questions.

Out of curiosity, I took to the time to compare SmartUpscale with BCC UpRez (followed the instructions available here : ). I can tell results are a lot better with Vegas Smart Upscale on my SD sources.

@lan-mLMC He compaired it

admit it that I always apply it as VideoFX... didn't know that it should be as MediaFX.

@VEGASPascal

Perhaps it would be better if the plugin notifies the user about this, as Stabilization FX did in previous versions.

admit it that I always apply it as VideoFX... didn't know that it should be as MediaFX.

@VEGASPascal

Perhaps it would be better if the plugin notifies the user about this, as Stabilization FX did in previous versions.

@altarvic Smart Zoom and Smart Upscale is an old plugin but not an original VEGAS plugin with source code. Sony decided in the past to write all additional information into the help files. In newer plugins which the VEGAS team created (stabilizer, mesh warp, warp flow, tracking, Ai plugins etc.) we try to guide the user with message boxes or tooltips. Sorry... I believe, we are not able to add a message box here.

So actually Smart Zoom and Smart Upscale are "third party" plugins like Protype Titler.

@VEGASPascal Can we expect that VEGAS team will replace such not original VEGAS plugins by new VEGAS team created plugins or that they only will be added to the deprecated features list in future?

So actually Smart Zoom and Smart Upscale are "third party" plugins like Protype Titler.

@VEGASPascal Can we expect that VEGAS team will replace such not original VEGAS plugins by new VEGAS team created plugins or that they only will be added to the deprecated features list in future?

The plugins works as expected... so no reason to add them as deprecated feature or to renew.

Protype Titler is loved by the community but for new users it was strange to see different text generators. The reason is more to clean up VEGAS. Projects using it will see it in the plugin window and users who prefer this are able to bring it back. I believe this is a good solution (other video editors would remove it).

The old stabilzer is a third party plugin (Mercalli) within VEGAS but limited in the resolution, MediaFX and some other issues and finally we are not able to extend it with new features... so we create our own. The community could send feature requests (like the customize region for detection) or send us some videos to improve the algorithm.

@VEGASPascal Is the smart upscale equally adept at upscaling SD to say FHD? or is it as in the HELP, exclusively only HD to UHD?

Ok, just saw this ...

Does it work for SD to HD?

I believe this was the initial idea of this plugin.

Thanks for the quick response.

To my opinion, Title&Text the only official VEGAS Titler is derived from the Protype Titler. Can we expect that Title&Text will be improved with more and better features?

Indeed the legacy stabilizer was actually Mercalli2 and limited to FHD. A future request/improvement for the VEGAS stabilizer would be a CMOS/rolling shutter correction.

@VEGASPascal Is the smart upscale equally adept at upscaling SD to say FHD? or is it as in the HELP, exclusively only HD to UHD?

Ok, just saw this ...

Does it work for SD to HD?

I believe this was the initial idea of this plugin.

 

It tries to enhance ("smart") and upscale on a factor of 4 (400% input). I have to check but in old VEGAS versions the help would give the example from SD to FullHD. If the resolution is smaller of the input the adjustment is easier to see.

@3POINT  ...  

the legacy stabilizer was actually Mercalli2

That's jogged my memory to a long time ago. I think that you are spot on.

Thanks for the quick response.

To my opinion, Title&Text the only official VEGAS Titler is derived from the Protype Titler. Can we expect that Title&Text will be improved with more and better features?

Indeed the legacy stabilizer was actually Mercalli2 and limited to FHD. A future request/improvement for the VEGAS stabilizer would be a CMOS/rolling shutter correction.

CMOS rolling shutter correction and improvements for Titles&Text is on our (community wish) list.

@VEGASPascal Is the smart upscale equally adept at upscaling SD to say FHD? or is it as in the HELP, exclusively only HD to UHD?

Ok, just saw this ...

Does it work for SD to HD?

I believe this was the initial idea of this plugin.

 

It tries to enhance ("smart") and upscale on a factor of 4 (400% input). I have to check but in old VEGAS versions the help would give the example from SD to FullHD. If the resolution is smaller of the input the adjustment is easier to see.

@VEGASPascal Thanks.

CMOS rolling shutter correction and improvements for Titles&Text is on our (community wish) list.

@VEGASPascal
I would like to add a powerful voice to that!
+1

It really works!

I hadn’t planned coming back here, but I was adding a simple half (Downscaling) and double (Upscaling) frame size output to my VFR2CFR util and decided to test it against VP.

Downscaling: I found that for both nvenc and cpu encoding there was nothing in it between the quality outputs of VP and ffmpeg's x264. So good news in a sense. Matching the file sizes and data rates is never perfect, but close enough.

Upscaling: I also tested the VP and ffmpeg FHD to UHD, and took the opportunity to also test the “Smart upscale” fx.

So far, unlike the downscaling test where I used both nvenc and cpu, I have only tested with nvenc, will do the cpu some time later. Later: Cpu results slightly better than Nvenc, expected.

Anyway, the VP Smart upscale fx shows a very clear quality difference compared to not using it in VP.

I left the default sensitivity at 200, the check box checked and dragged the slider to 4.

 

Anyway, the VP Smart upscale fx shows a very clear quality difference compared to not using it in VP.

I left the default sensitivity at 200, the check box checked and dragged the slider to 4.

The main problem I see is the lack of deblocking. Not a problem if it's high bitrate low/lower resolution footage, but if it's DVD, camera phone, internet footage it quite likely will need deblocking. Luckily with the Vegas smart upscale it doesn't seem to make the artifacts worse.

There was a situation recently where I needed to source a hard to find video, and only located a 360p low quality version. left is original, middle Vegas smart upscale, right is deblocking. In my opinion the deblocked version is preferred even though it's not as sharp. If deblocking could be added as part of vegas upscale that would be great.