Sony Vegas Pro 13 lagging a LOT when trying to edit 1920x1200 Footage!

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/15/2018, 4:35 AM

I usually record videos at 1920x1080 resolution and then be able to edit no problem in sony vegas 13, but now that I got two bigger monitors at 1920x1200 I am "forced" to record on that, the problem is when I want to edit the footage it REALLY becomes slow and choppy its unbearable. I tried changing the resolution to 1920x1080 but it is still choppy and laggy. Please help me! When you are ready to help please Ping me! So now I put two Raw footage of 1920x1080 and 1920x1200. the one that was originally 1920x1080 does not lag at all, while the 1920x1200 is lagging as hell! =[ I found out that for some reason Sony vegas have a lot of trouble working with videos that was originally recorded in 1920x1200 Is there some way I can "Resize" the footage I recorded in 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 without having to use some sort of converter. I have hours and hours of footage recorded in 1920x1200 and fills almost 1 Terabyte on hardisk.

If there is any information you need tell me and I will try to provide it as soon as possible!

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 2/16/2018, 8:51 AM

FAQ #22

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-faqs-and-troubleshooting-guides--104787/

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 8:55 AM

FAQ #22

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-faqs-and-troubleshooting-guides--104787/

I just read through it all. I don't find my issue here =[

NickHope wrote on 2/16/2018, 9:59 AM

1. Do you want to resize the 1920x1200 footage by cropping the top and bottom off, or by squashing it vertically?

2. What format are both types of footage and how were they created?

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 10:14 AM

1. Do you want to resize the 1920x1200 footage by cropping the top and bottom off, or by squashing it vertically?

2. What format are both types of footage and how were they created?

1. I want to "resize" the footage without having to use a converter or that would take for Ever.

2. Both are AVI and all the other settings except for Resolution is the same

OldSmoke wrote on 2/16/2018, 10:44 AM

Are your project settings 8bit or 32bit?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

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Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 11:03 AM

Are your project settings 8bit or 32bit?

I think its set to 8bit. Not sure what it does, so I did not mess with it

Musicvid wrote on 2/16/2018, 11:47 AM

1. I want to "resize" the footage without having to use a converter or that would take for Ever.

Vegas is not necessarily faster than a converter at rescaling and encoding your video. It will still take forever.

By far the least-hassle way is "learn to love black bars."

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 12:31 PM

1. I want to "resize" the footage without having to use a converter or that would take for Ever.

Vegas is not necessarily faster than a converter at rescaling and encoding your video. It will still take forever.

By far the least-hassle way is "learn to love black bars."

The problem is that I did not imagine that I would have problems going from 1920x1080 to 1920x1200. I recorded a bunch of clips with REALLY awesome moments in them and when I put them inside sony vegas it began to lag a tons! I changed my screen resolution to 1920x1080 and started recording at that today. I really hope there is someway I can recover back the 1920x1200 videos and edit them and be able to record 1920x1200 and edit no problem.

john_dennis wrote on 2/16/2018, 12:46 PM

"I really hope there is someway I can recover back the 1920x1200 videos and edit them and be able to record 1920x1200 and edit no problem."

Some technical details about your problem media or a sample clip might get some forum members interested. So far, you've only shared the fact that you have a problem.

Nick Hope said:

"2. What format are both types of footage and how were they created?"

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 12:51 PM

"I really hope there is someway I can recover back the 1920x1200 videos and edit them and be able to record 1920x1200 and edit no problem."

Some technical details about your problem media or a sample clip might get some forum members interested. So far, you've only shared the fact that you have a problem.

Nick Hope said:

"2. What format are both types of footage and how were they created?"

Oh I did not notice that, my bad!

I will get the information tomorrow when I get on my computer. Thank you for telling me =]

john_dennis wrote on 2/16/2018, 1:05 PM

When Nick Hope talks...

fr0sty wrote on 2/16/2018, 1:48 PM

You can also go into your graphics card settings, set your resolution for that monitor to 1920x1080, then when you screen cap, you won't have to worry about a non-standard video resolution being recorded.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Musicvid wrote on 2/16/2018, 1:55 PM

Then I suggest you just keep it 1200p door to door.

Media, project, effects, render. Let the final player do the heavy lifting instead of Vegas.

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 1:57 PM

This is a 1920x1200 video using MediaInfo:

General
Complete name                            : C:\Action!\Video\Recruit is Really fun.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 67.0 GiB
Duration                                 : 21 min 8 s
Overall bit rate                         : 454 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : FICV
Codec ID                                 : FICV
Duration                                 : 21 min 8 s
Bit rate                                 : 451 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 200 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:10
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 3.260
Stream size                              : 66.6 GiB (99%)

Audio #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 21 min 8 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 232 MiB (0%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 10  ms (0.60 video frame)

Audio #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 21 min 8 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 232 MiB (0%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 10  ms (0.60 video frame)

Now 1920x1200 using Sony Vegas Properties:

General
  Name: Recruit is Really fun.avi
  Folder: C:\Action!\Video
  Type: Video for Windows
  Size: 70.28 GB (71,967,268,648 bytes)
  Created: 10. februar 2018, 09:30:48
  Modified: 10. februar 2018, 10:20:01
  Accessed: 10. februar 2018, 09:30:48
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:21:08.683, 60.000 fps, 1920x1200x32, FICV Codec
  Audio 1: 00:21:08.670, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed
  Audio 2: 00:21:08.670, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: aviplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 13.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug
  Format: Video for Windows
  Version: Version 13.0 (Build 453) 64-bit
  Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.

 

This is a 1920x1080 video:

General
Complete name                            : C:\Action!\Video\Recruit 1080 1.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 117 GiB
Duration                                 : 45 min 12 s
Overall bit rate                         : 371 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : FICV
Codec ID                                 : FICV
Duration                                 : 45 min 12 s
Bit rate                                 : 368 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.954
Stream size                              : 116 GiB (99%)

Audio #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 45 min 12 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 497 MiB (0%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 10  ms (0.60 video frame)

Audio #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 45 min 12 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 497 MiB (0%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 10  ms (0.60 video frame)

Now 1920x1080 with Sony Vegas Properties:

General
  Name: Recruit 1080 1.avi
  Folder: C:\Action!\Video
  Type: Video for Windows
  Size: 122.75 GB (125,698,382,568 bytes)
  Created: 16. februar 2018, 15:58:23
  Modified: 16. februar 2018, 17:30:13
  Accessed: 16. februar 2018, 15:58:23
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:45:12.933, 60.000 fps, 1920x1080x32, FICV Codec
  Audio 1: 00:45:12.900, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed
  Audio 2: 00:45:12.890, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: aviplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 13.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug
  Format: Video for Windows
  Version: Version 13.0 (Build 453) 64-bit
  Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.

I REALLY Hope this helps! =] If there is anything missing or need of more information tell me, and thank a lot for helping =]

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 2:00 PM

You can also go into your graphics card settings, set your resolution for that monitor to 1920x1080, then when you screen cap, you won't have to worry about a non-standard video resolution being recorded.

Great idea! Right now I am mostly interested in recovering the 1920x1200 files to edit them smoothly. But Thanks a LOT for the suggestion will use it! =]

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 2:02 PM

Then I suggest you just keep it 1200p door to door.

Media, project, effects, render. Let the final player do the heavy lifting instead of Vegas.

Did not quite understand that sorry =[ What do you mean with Final Player ?

john_dennis wrote on 2/16/2018, 2:28 PM

Are your Project Properties set to 60.0 FPS or 59.94 FPS?

Is Resample on or off?

Could you upload a short sample file of the problem media to dropbox, google drive etc and post the download link here?

GPU on or off?

Good media and bad media on the same hard disk spindle?

Some discussion of the codec you're using.

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 5:37 PM

Are your Project Properties set to 60.0 FPS or 59.94 FPS?

Is Resample on or off?

Could you upload a short sample file of the problem media to dropbox, google drive etc and post the download link here?

GPU on or off?

Good media and bad media on the same hard disk spindle?

Some discussion of the codec you're using.

My Project Properties is set to 60 FPS.

I always turn off Resample just to make sure it would not cause me any problems.

I am not entirely sure what you mean with a short sample file. Could you explain further?

GPU is currently set to On, I tried turning it on and off multiple times, but I see no difference =[

Yup, both the bad and good media is on the same hardisk, I have some bad and good media on both the C and E Drive.

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/16/2018, 5:44 PM

Probably you use Action from Mirillis for your screen video.
Something must be wrong with your settings because when I make with Action a screencapture at my 4K monitor with the screenresolution of 3840x2160 a screencapture of Vegas playing a HD video at "original format" my bitrate becomes less than 21 Mbps.

When I use the setting 1080p I get a FHD screencapture (your rendertemplate for delivery) with less than 10 Mbps.
Both no problems to play in Vegas in Preview Full.

So I think your used bitrate of 451 Mbps for your 1920x1200 is much to high and maybe your HDD is not suited to play that realtime and for sure not if Vegas must resize it first to 1980x1080.
Also your 1920x1080 screenshot ells a bitrate much to high for a screencapture with 368 Mbps.
If you use Action try the following setting for your format of screencapture

Yes I am using Action. I record in AVI with Original quality. Not sure what I did wrong. But my current screen resolutions are 1920x1080. When I set Mirrils Action to record in 1080 it will for some reason record in 1700x1080 (can't remember what the two zeroes in 1700 are exactly). Do you want me to screenshot my whole Mirilis Action settings? Or can we talk over discord with screen share so it might become a little easer? If you do have discord add me: Abdullahx9000#6800. We can post the results here to make sure everybody is up to date =]

My Sony Vegas pro 13 playback any of my original 1920x1080 files smoothly, but when it comes to any of the original 1920x1200 files it stutters a lot.

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/17/2018, 8:50 AM

My Sony Vegas pro 13 playback any of my original 1920x1080 files smoothly, but when it comes to any of the original 1920x1200 files it stutters a lot.

Like I told you before: reason is the much to high bitrate of your screencapture of 541 Mbps. Your harddisk and Vegas ( for decoding it to 1920x1080 p 60) together do have a task to heavy to get smooth preview. To that comes the fact you have placed that file on C:/ where normal also the programs and other are located in stead of on a second disc ( or partition). The C:/ location is mostly fragmented and therefore difficult to read with heavy files.
For "normal editting" its adviced to use a second drive when your files are heavy.

To me logic it all lags. You have still to learn a lot with video editting.

It does not seem like the problem is that. I have footage of both resolutions on both the C and E drive. It lags equally with 1920x1200 and same smoothness with 1920x1080.

Abdullahx9000 wrote on 2/17/2018, 12:07 PM

Probably you use Action from Mirillis for your screen video.
Something must be wrong with your settings because when I make with Action a screencapture at my 4K monitor with the screenresolution of 3840x2160 a screencapture of Vegas playing a HD video at "original format" my bitrate becomes less than 21 Mbps.

When I use the setting 1080p I get a FHD screencapture (your rendertemplate for delivery) with less than 10 Mbps.
Both no problems to play in Vegas in Preview Full.

So I think your used bitrate of 451 Mbps for your 1920x1200 is much to high and maybe your HDD is not suited to play that realtime and for sure not if Vegas must resize it first to 1980x1080.
Also your 1920x1080 screenshot ells a bitrate much to high for a screencapture with 368 Mbps.
If you use Action try the following setting for your format of screencapture

I just realized that you are using screen capture while I use Game capture. Could that be the "issue"? Can you screenshot your Mirillis Action settings? I will share mine here tomorrow when I get on my PC

The5c0uT wrote on 6/4/2020, 4:05 PM

I usually record videos at 1920x1080 resolution and then be able to edit no problem in sony vegas 13, but now that I got two bigger monitors at 1920x1200 I am "forced" to record on that, the problem is when I want to edit the footage it REALLY becomes slow and choppy its unbearable. I tried changing the resolution to 1920x1080 but it is still choppy and laggy. Please help me! When you are ready to help please Ping me! So now I put two Raw footage of 1920x1080 and 1920x1200. the one that was originally 1920x1080 does not lag at all, while the 1920x1200 is lagging as hell! =[ I found out that for some reason Sony vegas have a lot of trouble working with videos that was originally recorded in 1920x1200 Is there some way I can "Resize" the footage I recorded in 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 without having to use some sort of converter. I have hours and hours of footage recorded in 1920x1200 and fills almost 1 Terabyte on hardisk.

If there is any information you need tell me and I will try to provide it as soon as possible!

Hello , i have the same issue , firstly i was filming with 1920x1080 and i it was very easy and it worked very smooth my sony vegas pro13 and now i upgraded it to 1920x1080 and it is lagy and it is not working anymore , now my question is how you managed to fix your issue ? Bdw sorry for my english and i will gladly appreciate if u cand help me .

Former user wrote on 6/4/2020, 7:58 PM

I was looking at whether a GPU really does help playback (other than GPU decoding) for imported video with no video fx and found with 4K it most definitly does, but at 1080p60fps I had better less laggy playback with gpu turned off (GPU video still decoding turned on ) when editing/cutting , moving to different sections of timeline. rock steady 60fps with gpu off, but fluxuating fps with gpu on. My investigation was into 4K so did not look into it further, but I was disappointed.

This is not ideal solution, but if you turn gpu off, do you get full speed playback?

The5c0uT wrote on 6/5/2020, 12:47 AM

I was looking at whether a GPU really does help playback (other than GPU decoding) for imported video with no video fx and found with 4K it most definitly does, but at 1080p60fps I had better less laggy playback with gpu turned off (GPU video still decoding turned on ) when editing/cutting , moving to different sections of timeline. rock steady 60fps with gpu off, but fluxuating fps with gpu on. My investigation was into 4K so did not look into it further, but I was disappointed.

This is not ideal solution, but if you turn gpu off, do you get full speed playback?

No it does not help at all , it is the same . I've get to the point where i think that the problem is the video i searched to see if it "infected" or something but it was oke so the resolution it might be the problem . So today i will try to film something at 1920x1080 with the same camera and if it works like befor i will tell u . I belive that this might be the only problem