Soundforge XP 4.5g build 371

steve-h9445 wrote on 8/22/2020, 9:49 PM

First of all, thank you for existing! I am basically computer illiterate, so, beat up on me with kindness. I have an ancient, music only, PC running Microsoft 2000. I use Soundforge 4.5, because an old friend of mine installed it when he built this relic. The issue I have is with one song that I saved as a wave file. The original song length is 3:07. The pitch on the original track was too slow, so I used the pitch bend feature in Soundforge. I arrived at the proper pitch and saved it. Doing that shortened the original (slower version of the song) by about 7 seconds. I went to burn a CD, including this particular song. Upon playing back the burned disc, this "pitch adjusted" song was still 3:07 long. It had about 7 seconds of dead air space at the end of the tune. Opening up the wave file, and playing it, there is NO, 7 second "dead air" shown at the end of the wave file track. My guess is that the wave file is really stored as a 3:07 long wave file, not as the "modified" 3:00 file, after the pitch adjustment was done. I see no way to alter this wave file, seeing that it looks, as plays back correctly. Being an analog guy, I can copy this song onto my half track reel to reel at 15 ips, and simply play it back "sped up" using the pitch control, lol. Thanks for considering my dilemma.


Musicvid wrote on 8/22/2020, 10:01 PM

Do you still have the original "un-spedup" file? Can you tell us, in semitones, how much higher the pitch needs to be? Sounds like a sample rate mismatch, but if this is a one-time deal, someone here can do it for you.

My first introduction to Sonic Foundry software was a free copy of Sound Forge XP 4.5, that came bundled with a new 500 Mhz motherboard! I'm still learning.

steve-h9445 wrote on 8/22/2020, 10:18 PM

I have both files saved. The track is an outtake of "Back in the USSR", from the Beatles 50th anniversary remix box set that came out in 2018. God, was that really 52 years ago? Anyway, I just made a second file and labeled it "original speed". I just burned a disc, and Back in the USSR goes right into Dear Prudence, as it should. No 7 seconds of silence. Thank you so much for putting up with my very limited knowledge. --- Steve ---

steve-h9445 wrote on 8/22/2020, 10:24 PM

Oh, I forgot to answer your question regarding the semitone setting. Looking at the graph, it shows + and - 10. I shifted the line, L to R, to what looks like + 1%. That seems to put the tempo very close to the released version. George Martin, and his Engineer used to speed up and slow down the machines to capture different textures in their music. I suspect they sped up the original 8 track session tape of, Back in the USSR, to make it more appealing.

Musicvid wrote on 8/22/2020, 10:45 PM

Sorry, that is copyrighted material and I couldn't help you even as a nonpaying client.

ASCAP, BMI, AFM (retired)

steve-h9445 wrote on 8/22/2020, 10:56 PM

I completely understand about copyright issues. I'm just trying to sort out why this computer is doing what it's doing. I love a good challenge. Thanks for your time.

Musicvid wrote on 8/23/2020, 12:14 AM

As I said, it sounds like a sample rate mismatch. You're OS uses DirectX drivers, whose sample rate is easily hijacked by any other open application.